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Me and my buddy are messing around and trying to make the best cheap ass bass.

Working with about 100 watts

What sub would work best?

Blaupunkt? 

Box is 2 cube tuned to 36

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too many freq at once, burn the coil, we all know, over 40-50hz, its all coilburning material.

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I don't have experience with Blaupunk but I did get a cheap $35 Belva amp off ebay after my car got broken into and I just needed to get a amplifier that was cheap to hold me over for a few weeks till I could afford to get a new pair pioneer amplifiers and I've used boss audios cheap 4 channel amp and planet audio 2 channel 1000 watt and Crunch 4 channel Amp 1000 watts and they all where less than $60 and worked very well. Aside from the boss amplifer only lasting 7 months for the price they get the job done and better than you'd think. I even had the crunch 4 channel 1000 watt amp powering my four cabin speakers off 2 channels bridged and a Apline E12 bridged off the other 2 channels with a low pass crossover switch to LPF. The biggest thing I look for if going for a cheap amp is the fuse on the amp and what its rated then test my charging system while the car is on and have everything turned on and the hvac on high to see what it's voltage out put is at that point of high use simulation. As long as it it's above 12.3VDC you can keep going. If it's below 12.3 or at 12.3 VDC then you need to fix your charging system somehere. But multiply whatever your multiplier showed your power was times the rating on the fuse and that'll give you a rough idea if your car how many watts it'll push out and then you can avoid getting a cheap amp that clipps and burns your woofers oiut.

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WTF was that.....


2016 Focus ST3 - Rockford DSR1 / PPI 900.4 / Silverflute 6.5" mids / Massive CT2 tweeters /Sundown Xv2 15"/ Taramps DSP3k / Stinger Roadkill / KNU wiring / Northstar SMSAGM80 /

2010 Focus coupe 157@46hz

Pioneer 80prs /(8) FU Audio 750 12"s / (4) FSD 2600s / (1) FSD 125.4 / (1) FSD 85.4 / (4) Crescendo UN-10" mids / (4) Crescendo FT1 tweeters / Stinger Roadkill / 2/0 EB flex wire / (5) Powerware 90AH batteries / DC 270XP Alt /

https://www.youtube.com/popwarhomie

too many freq at once, burn the coil, we all know, over 40-50hz, its all coilburning material.

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the low power is due to this being in a shop not a car, sadly 120 volt power is still very expensive.

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24 minutes ago, ilikeradios said:

the low power is due to this being in a shop not a car, sadly 120 volt power is still very expensive.

Yes it is. Why I was stoked to come across a Servo 600 for 50 bucks the other day 😀

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Those mean well power supplies are pretty cheap. I bought a 12 volt 30 amp and a 3 prong cord for around 40 dollars. You might be able to find a deal on a plate amplifier. I picked up a refurbished dayton 250 a couple of weeks ago for 80. 

Dayton classic 12 would probably sound good in that box or the sd 315. I've got the classic 8 in my little shop. Sounds really good 

 


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1 hour ago, fithwheel said:

Those mean well power supplies are pretty cheap. I bought a 12 volt 30 amp and a 3 prong cord for around 40 dollars. You might be able to find a deal on a plate amplifier. I picked up a refurbished dayton 250 a couple of weeks ago for 80. 

Dayton classic 12 would probably sound good in that box or the sd 315. I've got the classic 8 in my little shop. Sounds really good 

 

Yes I am using a plate amp, I ordered 2 of those Parts Express Subs, will make a box from some MDF.

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2 hours ago, nate0 said:

Yes it is. Why I was stoked to come across a Servo 600 for 50 bucks the other day 😀

I ended up grabing a crown XLS1500 for $100 a couple days ago! was pumped!


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You guys getting thoes used or what?  I got a new crown xls1002 for 230 a while back . Thought I was getting a good anyway  lol.


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The Blaupunkt 12 would work great for this application. So would an older MTX Roadthunder with the red frame. Really anything with a soft suspension and low moving mass would be fine. 


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On 4/15/2019 at 9:25 AM, fithwheel said:

You guys getting thoes used or what?  I got a new crown xls1002 for 230 a while back . Thought I was getting a good anyway  lol.

New?! Heck no...though a crown for 230 new might be a decent deal I guess. I prefer QSC honestly for my own reasons.  I have a friend who's dad has been doing live sound for a long time. He builds a lot of custom components too with cnc machining. He has a bunch of QSC and Samson amps he needed to get rid of since he was moving. Some worked fine, others only one channel worked.  I picked up the Samson since both channels worked and I have a 10" at home I can wire to it at 8ohms.

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49 minutes ago, nate0 said:

New?! Heck no...though a crown for 230 new might be a decent deal I guess. I prefer QSC honestly for my own reasons.  I have a friend who's dad has been doing live sound for a long time. He builds a lot of custom components too with cnc machining. He has a bunch of QSC and Samson amps he needed to get rid of since he was moving. Some worked fine, others only one channel worked.  I picked up the Samson since both channels worked and I have a 10" at home I can wire to it at 8ohms.

Yeah I figured it had to be used. I just got it to run a sub in the bedroom. Figured I could use it for testing any builds etc too. 

Idk when I was looking for one most of that particular model was 300 or a little more happen to catch a sale though at crutchfield. Normally 339 I think. They were like 50 off but they also had a scratch and dent. Found what might be a hairline scratch on the display but can't see it really unless you're really looking for it even with it on. Works pretty good for what I need anyway 


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work truck 2017 international pro star Alpine ute62 hu. Amps RF t1000.5ad 4 ch mode infinity k1000  sa 15 3.5 @ 30hz or 2 type s12 6.3 @ 41 hz  or jbl s3 2.0 36hz. or nvx  vcw 10 1.1 @ 32hz  2 8 " eminence pro woofers. 2" Dayton rs52fn midrange. 1 1/8 Dayton dc28f silk dome tweeters.

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16 minutes ago, fithwheel said:

Yeah I figured it had to be used. I just got it to run a sub in the bedroom. Figured I could use it for testing any builds etc too. 

Idk when I was looking for one most of that particular model was 300 or a little more happen to catch a sale though at crutchfield. Normally 339 I think. They were like 50 off but they also had a scratch and dent. Found what might be a hairline scratch on the display but can't see it really unless you're really looking for it even with it on. Works pretty good for what I need anyway 

Ya good find. It is a tossup when you buy stuff used, because you do not know if it was abused at all or not.  I know the Samson came from a good home and he was trying to almost give them away to make weight for moving.  All the amps that had one channel working he was selling for 20 bucks.  He had some QSC EX800 1250 and 1600

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2 minutes ago, nate0 said:

Ya good find. It is a tossup when you buy stuff used, because you do not know if it was abused at all or not.  I know the Samson came from a good home and he was trying to almost give them away to make weight for moving.  All the amps that had one channel working he was selling for 20 bucks.  He had some QSC EX800 1250 and 1600

Yeah I hear ya it's a gamble buying used. Sounds like you got an excellent deal no doubt

 20 dollars would be hard not to buy a couple of them even though being down a channel. seems like someone could make a good one of them.

 


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work truck 2017 international pro star Alpine ute62 hu. Amps RF t1000.5ad 4 ch mode infinity k1000  sa 15 3.5 @ 30hz or 2 type s12 6.3 @ 41 hz  or jbl s3 2.0 36hz. or nvx  vcw 10 1.1 @ 32hz  2 8 " eminence pro woofers. 2" Dayton rs52fn midrange. 1 1/8 Dayton dc28f silk dome tweeters.

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4 minutes ago, fithwheel said:

20 dollars would be hard not to buy a couple of them even though being down a channel. seems like someone could make a good one of them.

 

Exactly. I originally was aiming for the Samson and a QSC 1250 but I have so much stuff piled up in a junk room I had to say no :)

Or if someone wanted to repair one would have been a good deal... 

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14 minutes ago, nate0 said:

 I have so much stuff piled up in a junk room 

Lol. Me too


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work truck 2017 international pro star Alpine ute62 hu. Amps RF t1000.5ad 4 ch mode infinity k1000  sa 15 3.5 @ 30hz or 2 type s12 6.3 @ 41 hz  or jbl s3 2.0 36hz. or nvx  vcw 10 1.1 @ 32hz  2 8 " eminence pro woofers. 2" Dayton rs52fn midrange. 1 1/8 Dayton dc28f silk dome tweeters.

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