First off, Nos_GTSR is john, however the hell his name is spelled, and chaser is his friend. Yesturday morn Nos_GTSR told me that the kappa perfect 12", 2 of them, in a sealed box, would be better then wut I was saying would be better, which was 2 12" XXX's in a ported tuned to 30hz, where as he thought thats wut I was saying I was gonna get, where im gonna be gettin 2 SE 12" in the above box, but I was tellin him that 2 12" XXX's would be better then his 2 12" kappa perfects. Neither of us has the sys that is mentioned, we were stating which would be better, and me having heard so much about RE, I knew that a XXX would bash them, but he wouldnt take my word for it, and Nos_GTSR, u aint even seen me startin to flame yet. So dont even go there. And as far as chaser, no problem wit him, he just is there, im cool with it, I just had to show john that a XXX is better then a kappa, and they are cheaper too.