i believe audiosavings still has them for 87 shipped, i mean the cheapest u may get on here used is probably around 60-70 shipped. Why not spend the extra 20 bucks to get them new and have the piece of mind. Plus it may come with 1 year warranty although i have not tested to see how good that works. ( i bought a h/u from them and needed work on it and i was able to get warranty on it so i have had a positive experience from their warranty department or whatever it is)