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[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

LOL. These "asylum seekers" do seem to migrate to NY, Denver, SF, LA, etc, were the cost of living is thru the roof.

A lot of that is self-inflicted...if the "leadership" in those areas weren't putting out a message in favor of illegal immigration they wouldn't have it as bad

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Being that it isn't about the "numbers" and is about Biden lying, you don't have to worry yourself about the numbers. They aren't the point. Was it hard to pick out the actual topic and that's why you focused on "numbers"? I will say it again... Biden lied, that is the point.

LOL - you're a riot. Biden is only lying if the NUMBERS prove he lied; that's why YOU brought up the numbers. Of course you're unable to see or possibly even comprehend how context might play a role, which is why I gave a you concrete example of how the numbers could be manipulated, but that doesn't fit with the narrative does it? You might have to actually do some (preferably objective) research to see if the numbers bear out. Would it be "fair" to pull up Biden's lowest quarter for unemployment and compare it Trump's worse quarter and declare "Unemployment is lower under Biden?" What if Trump's worse quarter was Q1 2016, should we even use take that figure into consideration? Additionally, it's not even a comparison that can be made with "figures," you really need graphs.

I can see why you reject averages, etc that put things into context and perspective. Lord forbid we look at more telling metrics like graphs, moving averages, medians, trimmed medians, etc or take other factors into account. It's all about finding some way to somehow to blame Biden, call him a liar, etc.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

And just wait until you see how the mRNA vaccines play a role in this war.

What was it, the mRNA doesn't effect Jews or something like that??? Zionist plot???

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

LOL - you're a riot. Biden is only lying if the NUMBERS prove he lied; that's why YOU brought up the numbers. Of course you're unable to see or possibly even comprehend how context might play a role, which is why I gave a you concrete example of how the numbers could be manipulated, but that doesn't fit with the narrative does it? You might have to actually do some (preferably objective) research to see if the numbers bear out. Would it be "fair" to pull up Biden's lowest quarter for unemployment and compare it Trump's worse quarter and declare "Unemployment is lower under Biden?" What if Trump's worse quarter was Q1 2016, should we even use take that figure into consideration? Additionally, it's not even a comparison that can be made with "figures," you really need graphs.

I can see why you reject averages, etc that put things into context and perspective. Lord forbid we look at more telling metrics like graphs, moving averages, medians, trimmed medians, etc or take other factors into account. It's all about finding some way to somehow to blame Biden, call him a liar, etc.

Sorry to talk about your Uncle that way. Didn't realize the family was such a touchy subject.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/06/politics/fact-check-biden-cut-debt-surplus-corporate-tax-unemployment/index.html

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

A lot of that is self-inflicted...if the "leadership" in those areas weren't putting out a message in favor of illegal immigration they wouldn't have it as bad

Agreed. If it weren't for Trump's stolen election platform, it would be so easy to vote for him on immigration, border policy alone, although it does look like Biden isn't straying too far from it. Perhaps we can do a 2 steps forward, 1 step back and eventually reach a reasonable border policy. The simple solution would be to start trying businesses/business owners for tax evasion/fraud when using undocumented labor. When restaurants and landscapers start facing heavy fines, jail, lengthy and costly court cases, etc, then the problem will resolve itself.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Agreed. If it weren't for Trump's stolen election platform, it would be so easy to vote for him on immigration, border policy alone, although it does look like Biden isn't straying too far from it. Perhaps we can do a 2 steps forward, 1 step back and eventually reach a reasonable border policy. The simple solution would be to start trying businesses/business owners for tax evasion/fraud when using undocumented labor. When restaurants and landscapers start facing heavy fines, jail, lengthy and costly court cases, etc, then the problem will resolve itself.

All employers should required to run potential hires through e-verify...but I agree employers should be broke off for illegal hiring practices...I'd go one further though...I'd say put a criminal penalty on the undocumented worker as well or immediate deportation...

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

What was it, the mRNA doesn't effect Jews or something like that??? Zionist plot???

Think they reported first about how jab could not stop the spreading and causing virus mutation. As People with multiple boosters were more prone to getting covid also myocarditis…..

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

I’m old enough to remember they wanted Covid reeducation camp. Incoming though police

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

What was it, the mRNA doesn't effect Jews or something like that??? Zionist plot???

DARPA, aka the US military’s extremely highly funded and premier research agency, mass produced the vaccines based off viral coding that China sent them, with China saying that viral coding was sars-cov-2, as they did to the rest of the world. Why would DARPA mass produce MRNA vaccines based directly on Chinese produced viral coding?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

All employers should required to run potential hires through e-verify...but I agree employers should be broke off for illegal hiring practices...I'd go one further though...I'd say put a criminal penalty on the undocumented worker as well or immediate deportation...

Oh yeah, definite deportation.

IMHO, we're really doing our neighbors to the south a disservice by siphoning off all their hard workers.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

DARPA, aka the US military’s extremely highly funded and premier research agency, mass produced the vaccines based off viral coding that China sent them, with China saying that viral coding was sars-cov-2, as they did to the rest of the world. Why would DARPA mass produce MRNA vaccines based directly on Chinese produced viral coding?

So you're saying Pfizer, et al were unable or unwilling to source their own Covid virus for sequencing?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Think they reported first about how jab could not stop the spreading and causing virus mutation. As People with multiple boosters were more prone to getting covid also myocarditis…..

You have actual scientific evidence to support those claims? My wife works in a cardiac clinic scanning for heart disease.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Oh yeah, definite deportation.

IMHO, we're really doing our neighbors to the south a disservice by siphoning off all their hard workers.

We're hurting ourselves more than the home countries...a lot of money gets sent back over the border...

Migrant workers sent home almost $800 billion in 2022. Which countries are the biggest recipients?

Money sent home by migrant workers rose to $794 billion in 2022, the World Bank says. These remittances are a lifeline for low and middle-income countries.

www.weforum.org

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

See, Rob, you’re just gonna ruin it for everyone. This is the hate I am talking about. That response isn’t what you should say to people.

You think it’s hateful of me to say that if you talk to people in real life the way you talk here, that it’s a surprise no one has ended you?

Hate to tell you kid, but people have done just that for a lot less. If you think I’m wrong, walk up to some guy and talk isht about his mother. My guess is he’s not going to hug you and offer to buy you a beer.

I just saw a video of a guy get lead in the gut for playing noises on his phone and harassing a food delivery guy.