Winners only.

[ThxOne Premium Member]

What are the other three of the four?
Is it a lie to say they happened if they actually happened?

" Facts First: Three of these four Biden unemployment boasts are misleading because they are out of date. Only his claim about a 70-year low for women’s unemployment remains current. While the unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanics and people with disabilities did fall to record lows earlier in Biden’s presidency, they have since increased – to rates higher than the rates during various periods of the Trump administration." - CNN

He spoke of these in the present tense. So yes, lies.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

It was a ways back, but I think I explained it to you and answered your questions:

"Not at all. I actually tried to show I can separate the two some time back in this thread, and was "attacked" (for lack of a better term) and essentially told to stop.
With the response I got, I figured there was no point in joking around if people were going to just be aholes in return."

You might say I consider lies and bullisht to be hatred and ugliness, and I respond in kind by tearing them apart. When many of the people who post the lies and bullisht get upset by being called out, they respond with personal attacks.
I respond to personal attacks with personal attacks.
Eye for an eye, if you will.

If you recall, I was very specific with someone a while back when I told them to stop responding with personal attacks, and just speak to the argument itself. They agreed, but I don't think they lasted more than a day before they started again. I felt no need to hold back if they were going to do that.

And I hate to tell you, but there have been plenty of times you retorted to arguments with personal attacks. On me and others. I 'll offer that if you don't like to get it back, then don't dish it out.

The shadows I see are in the shape of whatever is blocking the light that would normally hit any surfaces. Pretty much the same as day shadows, but maybe "darker".
The lizard reference was a joke.

You’re not being honest. You’ve been this way long before you ever came to this forum, as none of us here are stupid. You think you separate this forum from the rest of your life, but the truth is on this forum you really show us who you are inside. Your personality must cast a lot of shadows, because it sure is blocking the light.

You play passive aggressive, you attack and then act like it’s not serious or your actions are all someone else’s fault, yet you are caught up calling people the worst insults that you can. That is who you are.

I’m like I am on the forum in real life; you are not.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

That kind of lack of leadership on homeless has killed western WA...and it'll only get worst until jurisdictions start enforcing camping on public property and/or trespass laws...

I was in Houston recently - no homeless. Somehow they're able to spend their homeless dollars effectively and get these people off the streets. Then you have places like Cali, Portland, Wa, Colorado spending millions upon millions and the problem only gets worse. I remember reading an article (I may have posted it here) on how much Denver spent on homeless and was flabbergasted that there could be a single person in the streets given what they were spending.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

" Facts First: Three of these four Biden unemployment boasts are misleading because they are out of date. Only his claim about a 70-year low for women’s unemployment remains current. While the unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanics and people with disabilities did fall to record lows earlier in Biden’s presidency, they have since increased – to rates higher than the rates during various periods of the Trump administration." - CNN

He spoke of these in the present tense. So yes, lies.

Kind of an odd quote and rather meaningless without context, ie are Biden's unemployment rates higher than Trump's when compared to "various periods" when Trump's unemployment #s were low?

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

I was in Houston recently - no homeless. Somehow they're able to spend their homeless dollars effectively and get these people off the streets. Then you have places like Cali, Portland, Wa, Colorado spending millions upon millions and the problem only gets worse. I remember reading an article (I may have posted it here) on how much Denver spent on homeless and was flabbergasted that there could be a single person in the streets given what they were spending.

Its a 501c3 business, bigger the operation bigger the salaries.
California put aside $7.2 billion to address homelessness in the 2021-22 state budget. Last year, there were an estimated 172,000 homeless statewide, which equates to spending nearly $42,000 per homeless person.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I was in Houston recently - no homeless. Somehow they're able to spend their homeless dollars effectively and get these people off the streets. Then you have places like Cali, Portland, Wa, Colorado spending millions upon millions and the problem only gets worse. I remember reading an article (I may have posted it here) on how much Denver spent on homeless and was flabbergasted that there could be a single person in the streets given what they were spending.

The amount of money that gets spent is ridiculous.i know in WA the vast majority of money spent on homelessness is done through non-profits, the state govt gives the non-profit grants to do the legwork. Before I moved away I saw a breakdown that was done on how the money was getting spent...essentially out of every $100 given to the non-profits the average was $6 actually went directly to homelessness, about $30 went to political campaign donations, and the rest was split between non-profit salaries and promoting the non-profit (there were like 10 in the report and some were better than others). That was about 7 years ago when the problem was really bad in western WA but still out the national spotlight.

Decriminalization of drugs in the way its being done absolutely has poured gas on the homelessness bonfire imo. When you let people get high as fck with repercussions and then don't enforce other ,as (theft, trespass, assault, etc) you're asking for trouble and considering the population of addicts (at least in WA) living on the streets you're asking for trouble. The homeless camps in Seattle are absolutely dangerous to walk through. They're essentially drug markets that police won't go into without backup or after dark. It wasn't that long ago they had a tent city turf war where one encampment firebombed another nearby one.

I think if jurisdictions cracked down on public intoxication, theft, property crimes (you know laws on the books) and got the bad drug users out of picture then it'd be easier to assess the problem. I can't speak for places I don't know about but WA drug use is the biggest problem with homelessness. Get those peop.e out then work to find solution for the mentally ill and those that just need a helping hand to get back on their feet. And of course auditing how money is getting spent and hold people accountable for waste of govt funding.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You’re not being honest. You’ve been this way long before you ever came to this forum, as none of us here are stupid. You think you separate this forum from the rest of your life, but the truth is on this forum you really show us who you are inside. Your personality must cast a lot of shadows, because it sure is blocking the light.

I’m being totally honest Matt, and you know nothing of my life whatsoever, other than what I’ve told you here.
The guy I called truce with was Thxone. He accepted, and almost immediately fell back to his old ways.
Would you like to see quotes of it?
They’re in the thread history for posterity.

You play passive aggressive, you attack and then act like it’s not serious or your actions are all someone else’s fault, yet you are caught up calling people the worst insults that you can. That is who you are.

Aggressive when people are lying? Absolutely. I don’t like lies and I don’t like being lied to.
Maybe done people like it. That’s their problem. I attack the lies, until the individual attacks me. Then I will attack them back.
I’m not a “turn the other cheek” kind of guy.
Are you?

I’m like I am on the forum in real life; you are not.

OH? You accuse me of dishonesty m, and then try to make a claim like this?

So you go around telling people they should kill themselves, telling them how their mother is a wh0re and how you f***ed her until the splooge ran out, telling them they are terrible humans but you are a clean-hearted and superior one?
If so, you either never get out and see real people, or you are very lucky someone hasn’t ended you already.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

If so, you either never get out and see real people, or you are very lucky someone hasn’t ended you already.

See, Rob, you’re just gonna ruin it for everyone. This is the hate I am talking about. That response isn’t what you should say to people.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Keep your eyes peeled; this is very bad:

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]

Keep your eyes peeled; this is very bad:

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it has started.....here we go, gonna get scary

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

it has started.....here we go, gonna get scary

They need war all over the world to really implement AI.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Keep your eyes peeled; this is very bad:

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If Isreal is serious about being at war...that'll bring Iran into the mix at some point...good thing we gave Iran all that money to not have nukes

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Bad bad:

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The amount of money that gets spent is ridiculous.i know in WA the vast majority of money spent on homelessness is done through non-profits, the state govt gives the non-profit grants to do the legwork. Before I moved away I saw a breakdown that was done on how the money was getting spent...essentially out of every $100 given to the non-profits the average was $6 actually went directly to homelessness, about $30 went to political campaign donations, and the rest was split between non-profit salaries and promoting the non-profit (there were like 10 in the report and some were better than others). That was about 7 years ago when the problem was really bad in western WA but still out the national spotlight.

Decriminalization of drugs in the way its being done absolutely has poured gas on the homelessness bonfire imo. When you let people get high as fck with repercussions and then don't enforce other ,as (theft, trespass, assault, etc) you're asking for trouble and considering the population of addicts (at least in WA) living on the streets you're asking for trouble. The homeless camps in Seattle are absolutely dangerous to walk through. They're essentially drug markets that police won't go into without backup or after dark. It wasn't that long ago they had a tent city turf war where one encampment firebombed another nearby one.

I think if jurisdictions cracked down on public intoxication, theft, property crimes (you know laws on the books) and got the bad drug users out of picture then it'd be easier to assess the problem. I can't speak for places I don't know about but WA drug use is the biggest problem with homelessness. Get those peop.e out then work to find solution for the mentally ill and those that just need a helping hand to get back on their feet. And of course auditing how money is getting spent and hold people accountable for waste of govt funding.

Very similar situation in Denver/Metro. I remember seeing the gross amount spent and thinking you could easily rent apartments for them with that kind of budget. Unfortunately, I don't think the homelessness bell can be unrung and it will only get worse for the next few generations. IMHO, the problem began years ago when "we" began cutting programs for children with mental/behavioral disabilities (thanks GOP) and now those kids are adults incapable of integrating into society.