Winners only.

[SlugButter]

Guys... gals if there

Like $60 crabs that just eat dead sea life.
Gross.

It’s all bad. i grew up around cows and non-processed beef. The stuff we eat in the store doesn’t even resemble anything i grew up eating.

 

[SlugButter]

Chickens are twice the size now as they were in the 80s. Im surprised the steroids aren’t giving our little girls beards.

 

[SlugButter]

Steroids are good for a country of laborer slaves who need to preform for rich corporations though. Gotta build those muscles so the stock market can profit off the slave labor.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

It’s all bad. i grew up around cows and non-processed beef. The stuff we eat in the store doesn’t even resemble anything i grew up eating.

Yep. I buy from an acquaintance who raises free-range. First half cow I bought, i was so used to store stuff, it tasted WRONG.
Got used to it quick though.

 

[SlugButter]

Yep. I buy from an acquaintance who raises free-range. First half cow I bought, i was so used to store stuff, it tasted WRONG.
Got used to it quick though.

Yeah. My uncle slaughters a whole cow every year. We all swarm to get the good stuff. We have all free range cattle. Beef is gray in color, not red. The red is a dye to fool city people into thinking it’s fresh “blood”.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Why does combustion make something not green? The sun is full of nuclear reactions, is it not what powers green already? Nuclear fission is basically a combustion.

Nuclear fission is not combustion and any carbon being produced in the sun isn't ending up in our atmosphere. So I guess Biden didn't say to "shut off energy" and you're just going to keep avoiding that one.....

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

You sidestepped the question with a logical fallacy.
The combustion of the sun does not cause pollution on Earth.
Focus man, focus.

Nuclear fission isn't combustion. There is no oxygen or oxidizing agent involved in nuclear fission. A reductant is lacking as well. IMHO, Buck was just trying to engage in the same amateurish debating tactic numerous other neo-cons have been engaging in where they basically attempt to portray all forms of energy as dirty carbon producing endeavors. There is even some guy who does a TED talk claiming electric cars actually produce more carbon than non-electric. Of course he never provides any evidence to support the claim, but I'm sure he's a darling of the right....

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The sun causes almost all heat and climate change on Earth; should we put the sun out to stop climate change?

What is green energy?

Didn't know that option was on the table. Kinda like Biden saying "shut off energy" - just another false argument...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

The footprint on renewables isn't smaller right now...the effects may be different then fossil fuels but not less impactful on the environment...and changing to a more expensive energy source might feel good but will severely harm millions upon millions around the world...

Put down the Kool-aid. Just because your favorite right wing naysayers make these claims doesn't make it so.....

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Oh? Coal has an EROI of 10:1, Solar is 26:1, and Wind is 44:1.
That strongly suggests the renewables have a significantly smaller footprint.
Imagine making 10, 26, or 44 HP from the same gallon of gas. Yes, it’s a simplified example, but legit.

I’m not sure what you mean by changing to a more expensive source, but it may be something that NEEDS to be done.
It’s more expensive for factories to be clean than to just dump their waste in a river.
Should we revert to those times?

Another logical fallacy brought to you by conservative "think" tanks.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

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Put down the Kool-aid. Just because your favorite right wing naysayers make these claims doesn't make it so.....

Not So “Green” Technology: The Complicated Legacy of Rare Earth Mining

"As much as technology is hailed as the panacea of the future, most of these innovations have a dirty underside: production of these new technologies requires companies to dig up what are referred to as rare earth elements (REEs)."

hir.harvard.edu

Right wing as hell...Maga University right there...

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Environmental Damage

web.mit.edu

More right wing nonsense

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

The hidden costs of China's rare-earth trade

China's advantage in rare-earth elements, a critical material to high-tech products including smartphones and electric cars, comes at a high environmental and human cost.

www.latimes.com

Trump and good old mitch probably co-wrote this

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Instead of trying switch over to an energy system that cannot meet our needs (because the tech isn't there yet) and pushing the narrative we're all gonna die in 2030 if we don't...why not get government investments out of green energy so real advancements can be made and make the transition when the tech is really ready...

Yeah, lets do away those grants, subsidies, tax credits, etc that helped make Tesla and Musk's other business ventures become the juggernauts they are. Stupid electric cars pollute more than ICE cars anyway....

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

You really think electric cars only exist because of government interference?