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[ThxOne Premium Member]

Whose oil is it?

That is your oil, my oil, US citizens oil that has been paid for by all of us who pay taxes. Our strategic oil reserves are for us and us only in times of need. It is not there to be sold a second time by and for the Biden administration to make money from.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I agree. There's no way they found 2000 volunteer mules, which means the mules can be bought. Why not pay mules to recount their story anonymously? It would add a lot to the film.

Good point. If their have all this geolocation data, then they can track the mules straight to their jobs and homes. Just go knock on a door. I hadn't thought about that. I was starting buy into there is an outside chance it happened. However, since they can just go knock on some doors and get to the bottom of this clearly it's complete BS. Thanks for you input, it helped clear that up.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

FYI, I owned a small business and I looked into purchasing geotracking data; it ain't cheap.

So is it your position that although D'Souza has video of people making multiple drops he decided to leave the smoking gun out of his documentary? In Bowling for Columbine, Michael Moore says a bank is giving away free guns when you open an account. Even had a video of him in the bank's parking lot with his new gun. Doesn't mean he wasn't full of s h i t.

"HE" does not have the video... if you watch the documentary, two other people have this evidence.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Guess who undermined public confidence in vaccines?

The Biden administration is trying to shift blame to social media for the predictable effects of its own demagoguery.

thehill.com

 

[metalheadjoe 10+ year member]

1. It cost a lot to make a movie. The longer it is, the more money.
2. If in the future this goes to court they could say the evidence is not usable in some way because it was in the documentary... or who knows what. It's better if the majority of the evidence/proof is fresh to the courts.

1 the most convincing content should make the cut.

2 does that make sense to you? Floyd got an innocent man convicted with an old video. Chauvin wouldn't have been charged if not for old video.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

1 the most convincing content should make the cut.

2 does that make sense to you? Floyd got an innocent man convicted with an old video. Chauvin wouldn't have been charged if not for old video.

After watching the documentary I believe there is enough scientific, viable, verifiable evidence for this to be investigated. I would LOVE to watch that play out in the news.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

That is your oil, my oil, US citizens oil that has been paid for by all of us who pay taxes. Our strategic oil reserves are for us and us only in times of need. It is not there to be sold a second time by and for the Biden administration to make money from.

The Biden administration didn't make money from it. One it was probably exchanged since businesses are smarter than to pay top dollar for a commodity that's going to drop in price. Second, it's the businesses that made any money to be made. Third, if any money exchanged hands, it would go into the Federal budget.

While we're at it, I guess I'll just call it now. In ~18 months or so when the budget is released/reconciled for this year, the GOPsters will up in arms when there is no evidence that we were paid for the oil Biden released. All the GOPsters that are currently experts on how the SPR works will conveniently forget that oil is often exchanged in and out of the reserve.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

1 the most convincing content should make the cut.

2 does that make sense to you? Floyd got an innocent man convicted with an old video. Chauvin wouldn't have been charged if not for old video.

When you've exhausted all logical conclusions, you're only left with the illogical ones. Chauvin was convicted on old video. People are going to jail left and right for Jan 6th based on old videos, pictures and posts. "Old video" got Ray Rice arrested and run out of the NFL. Hell, old evidence it getting people put in jail and out of jail all the time.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

It may happen frequently but you show where in epca it actually authorized that...just because govt does something frequently means they have they authority to...

 

[metalheadjoe 10+ year member]

Good point. If their have all this geolocation data, then they can track the mules straight to their jobs and homes. Just go knock on a door. I hadn't thought about that. I was starting buy into there is an outside chance it happened. However, since they can just go knock on some doors and get to the bottom of this clearly it's complete BS. Thanks for you input, it helped clear that up.

Was that sarcastic? My comment was not.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I agree. There's no way they found 2000 volunteer mules, which means the mules can be bought. Why not pay mules to recount their story anonymously? It would add a lot to the film.

These mules were paid to make these ballot drops. Eventually having to provide proof they made the drops with pictures so they could get paid.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

After watching the documentary I believe there is enough scientific, viable, verifiable evidence for this to be investigated. I would LOVE to watch that play out in the news.

I agree. Some right wing journalist or somebody from True the Vote should investigate this further. Like I said, if they have the geolocation data for the phones, then it shouldn't be too hard to figure out where these people live and work and interview them. Then again now-a-days journalism is at best biased half-truths and usually little more than party propaganda and conspiracy theories. Why should we expect these folks who are supposedly so concerned about honest elections to finish the job? They've got enough for a conspiracy theory and that's good enough in today's media.

And in defense of D'Souza, why should he finish the job? It would be the morally correct thing to do, but Denish D'Souza has demonstrated "ethical flexibility" in the past; especially where elections are concerned. The people were going to believe still believe him regardless of how flimsy his story is. If it turns out he's wrong, he'd be hated by both the and the right, so his days doing political documentaries would be over. And if D'Souza did hunt down the mules and could prove there were ballot stuffing operations in key states, the vast majority of Dems/liberals would still reject it. Additionally, if D'Souza did find out that there was no ballot stuffing or perhaps some of these mules were stuffing the box for Trump, then he'd really be screwing the man who pardoned him for committing election fraud.

Dinesh D’Souza Sentenced in Manhattan Federal Court to Five Years of Probation for Campaign Finance Fraud

Trump will pardon conservative pundit Dinesh D’Souza, who was convicted of campaign finance violation

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Was that sarcastic? My comment was not.

No, I'm not being sarcastic. Your comment made a light bulb go off in my head - if they've got the geolocation data, then they know were to find these mules. If they were stuffing ballot boxes for a couple bucks a ballot why wouldn't they happily bring down the whole operation for say a few thousand dollars or the opportunity to have their 5 minutes of fame?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I agree. Some right wing journalist or somebody from True the Vote should investigate this further. Like I said, if they have the geolocation data for the phones, then it shouldn't be too hard to figure out where these people live and work and interview them. Then again now-a-days journalism is at best biased half-truths and usually little more than party propaganda and conspiracy theories. Why should we expect these folks who are supposedly so concerned about honest elections to finish the job? They've got enough for a conspiracy theory and that's good enough in today's media.

And in defense of D'Souza, why should he finish the job? It would be the morally correct thing to do, but Denish D'Souza has demonstrated "ethical flexibility" in the past; especially where elections are concerned. The people were going to believe still believe him regardless of how flimsy his story is. If it turns out he's wrong, he'd be hated by both the and the right, so his days doing political documentaries would be over. And if D'Souza did hunt down the mules and could prove there were ballot stuffing operations in key states, the vast majority of Dems/liberals would still reject it. Additionally, if D'Souza did find out that there was no ballot stuffing or perhaps some of these mules were stuffing the box for Trump, then he'd really be screwing the man who pardoned him for committing election fraud.

Dinesh D’Souza Sentenced in Manhattan Federal Court to Five Years of Probation for Campaign Finance Fraud

Trump will pardon conservative pundit Dinesh D’Souza, who was convicted of campaign finance violation

All good points

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Odds are if there are mules...they didn't do it for the money...most likely they are zealots who believe it was the best way to achieve their vision of the U.S.