I love all the hate that is blindly thrown at mainstream brands. They are mainstream for a reason; they sell quality products for a somewhat competitive price. I guarantee that in no companies business plan does it state that they will do anything in their power to screw the consumer and focus on how much of a profit they can make by selling the worst product they can put together. I do not disagree that better products can be had at the same or ever lower prices, but to go as far as to say that almost every product these giant companies sell is chinese garbage is a biased stretch at the least. Both Kicker and Rockford Fosgate started small somewhere, creating products with the same passion that Sundown, DC, and DD do today. Just because they have grown (more proof that their products sold EXTREMELY well) does not mean that all quality and passion for their work was instantly traded for a monetary gain. They may not be the best for the money, but they HAVE to be doing something right.