Who thinks Obama's birth certificate is real?

[Spc4Mafia 10+ year member]

I'm just saying. its not racism if you hate everyone. it really doesn't matter though,Just because I don't like his policies, doesn't mean i wouldn't go golfing with the guy.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I'm just saying. its not racism if you hate everyone. it really doesn't matter though,Just because I don't like his policies, doesn't mean i wouldn't go golfing with the guy.

I don't hate the guy, I just don't want him as president. I don't think he's a bad guy, but I don't want him as president.

There are many people that I hang out with and call friends that I wouldn't want president. You see what I'm saying?

That's why I hate people pulling the racist card.

 

[Spc4Mafia 10+ year member]

i don't hate the guy, i just don't want him as president. I don't think he's a bad guy, but i don't want him as president.
There are many people that i hang out with and call friends that i wouldn't want president. You see what i'm saying?

That's why i hate people pulling the racist card.

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[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

The burden of proof is on those making the claim....! I'm NOT making a claim contrary to the FACT that he is a us citizen. I KNOW for a fact that the commander and chief of the united states military is a us citizen. You cant become a commander or a cheif let alone commander and cheif without meeting those requirements. Otherwise when the investigation was launched to prove he is who he is would have come up with evidence contrary to the facts he provided on his application.
AGAIN, the burden of proof is on those making the claim. To agree with a FACT requires no investigation, even though there has been several on the topic. Since I'm not making the claim contrary to a FACT I dont need to launch an investigation. Do you understand?? There is EMPIRICAL evidence to support his claim that he is an american citizen. There is no evidence to support any claims that he is not an american citizen, the burden of proof is on those making the claim. He has already proven multiple times hes an american citizen, its a fact.

Now if anyones has empirical evidence that he is not an american citizen I dare you to show it... Infact I'll bet someone would easily pay over a million dollars for empirical evidence to support the claim that he is not an american citizen.

If I said "evolution is fake." that claim is contrary to the FACT that the process of evolution is infact, a fact. I would have to provide evidence contrary to the fact and disprove evolution THEN my competing theory would go under peer review. If it were proven to be fact it would replace the current theory of evolution. Since I'm not making ANY claims of the sort I dont need to launch an investigation, I agree with the facts.

If I said "ham cures cancer" I would have to come up with evidence to support my claim that ham can cure cancer.

If I was to say "fifty cent AKA curtis jackson is a caucasian female. " I would have to come up with empirical evidence to support my claim.

To simply agree with the fact that he is infact a black male does not require an investigation. I just agreed with it and thats it, its obvious that he is infact a black male. Why would I need to launch an investigation into something so obvious and was proven on the day he was born.

I stopped reading after the second sentence, tbh. No offense, but it was clearly several paragraphs of justifying why only you are allowed to believe what others tell you, while opposing views must be proven conclusively before they are even allowed to be discussed.

 

[Igotwire 10+ year member]

LOL well its foolish to argue with facts. I mean, would you argue with point about ANYTHING else?? no.. cause you know its dumb to argue about facts. Also.. I won the debate and I'd be back peddling about now too.

Do you have any evidence to support any claims contrary to a fact? I mean any fact..

 

[Spc4Mafia 10+ year member]

I am kinda curious if the ink on that paper has had time to dry..........or if they ruined a scanner

 

[Suicide Bobb 5,000+ posts]

LOL well its foolish to argue with facts. I mean, would you argue with point about ANYTHING else?? no.. cause you know its dumb to argue about facts. Also.. I won the debate and I'd be back peddling about now too.
Do you have any evidence to support any claims contrary to a fact? I mean any fact..

Let me write a 400 page document on why you're wrong, and when you don't read it, I'm going to thus claim I won the argument.

 

[Spc4Mafia 10+ year member]

******* bob, the best politician in the dome

 

[Sub Woofin 10+ year member]

no one in the right mind thinks its real

 

[Igotwire 10+ year member]

Seriously, if someone can prove with empirical evidence contrary to a fact I'll paypal you five hundred dollars when you get that fact changed to your theory.

I just think its hilarious someone would argue a fact..

People like conspiracy theories cause they have a beginning, middle, and end.. its a whole story with closure, even if that closure is a complete fraud. People like closure and exciting stories, even if they are not true.

Remember the 9/11 was an inside job story? Where did that go.. where is their empirical evidence to prove their claims? They dont have any.. did that stop anyone from believing it? No.. its a theory with a beginning, middle, and end. It brings closure to people with questions and arnet satisfied with the reality of the situation, like it wasnt incredible enough. I think if you cant think critically about the things you read then you're no better than a terrorist because you're undermining the scientific method humans use to make facts valid and reliable sources of information.

When you support something contrary to a fact without empirical evidence than whats stopping you from believing anything? You obviously arnet using your critical thinking skills and you obviously like being swept up in lies and claims that undermine the fabric of truth we should be able to rely on. You can have your own truth but you cant have your own facts. Fact is obama is president thus reinforcing the fact that he is an american born in hawaii.. if you wish to argue that fact, please produce evidence and your claim will be entertained by millions of people.

The fact is, nobody here has any evidence contrary to ANY fact. Prove me wrong and prepare to be famous cause you're gonna get a nobel prize..

 

[Igotwire 10+ year member]

Lol dont get fussy now what you cant make a wild claim without evidence. Why dont you write a paragraph and Ill not read that too cause Its gonna be full of unfounded non empirical truths. There things might be true to you but they are not facts.

You can have your own truth but you cant have your own facts.

 

[Spc4Mafia 10+ year member]

Haters be hatin'

lulz

 

[Phoenix Risen 10+ year member]

Lol dont get fussy now what you cant make a wild claim without evidence. Why dont you write a paragraph and Ill not read that too cause Its gonna be full of unfounded non empirical truths. There things might be true to you but they are not facts.
You can have your own truth but you cant have your own facts.

did you see the reports from the people that did the "investigation" into his background?

did you do the "investigation"?

if not then how can you conclusively say that someone didnt turn their head and let something slip by when they were doing the investigation because they wanted to have a "black" president.

personally i could give a crap less if he has it now or not. he will be out soon enough.

but you saying we need proof of it. how about you prove for us exactly why we should believe it is real?

 

[Spc4Mafia 10+ year member]

lol, good shyt bro

 

[Igotwire 10+ year member]

did you see the reports from the people that did the "investigation" into his background?

yes i did see his birth certificate.. its real.

did you do the "investigation"?

no, the hospital did it when he was born. I wasnt alive then and it was true then and its true now. If you have evidence contrary to this fact then you are welcome to present it. Since you dont have any evidence to dispute the fact do you accept it as truth? There is no alternative fact to a fact.. All these people saying this and that, prove it. PROVE IT. You know what its called when you dont believe things that are true? Delusion.. That means you arnet using critical thinking and allowing yourself to be tricked..

if not then how can you conclusively say that someone didnt turn their head and let something slip by when they were doing the investigation because they wanted to have a "black" president.

Are you serious? There are ohh.. I dunno, 180 million people who hate the fact that he is president. I'm pretty sure at least one of them has done and investigation and found everything is in order or it would have surfaced by now...

personally i could give a crap less if he has it now or not. he will be out soon enough.

but you saying we need proof of it. how about you prove for us exactly why we should believe it is real?

You believe your birth certificate is real right? You believe in the integrity of the doctors that delivered you and marked you down as male or female with your name. All that was true when you were born, is it true now? Were you born on those dates in that hospital by that doctor? Yes.. Now why would someone let that slip back then? Do you think the doctor predicted he would become president and fudge the details or add more to make him appear more legit and qualified with a BIRTH CERTIFICATE? Come on... if you use your head you'd quickly realize that your own critical thinking skills can determine these simple things.

Its not up to me to approve what you think is true or what to believe. If you want to educate yourself start reading but dont put it on me to determine whats real and whats not real in your life.

If you're gonna say "I think X is true contrary to the fact that Y is true" then you need to prove it.

When I'm told 1+1 = 2 I believe it whole heartedly because its true. There has been an investigation, there is evidence to support that 1 item and 1 item when put together equals 2 items. When I'm told evolution is true I believe it with every fiber of my being because there are thousands of scientists and millions of pages of documentation to reinforce the theory and NOTHING contrary with any evidence to dispute it.