ok so i had this btl motor offered up for trade...so this guy name not mentioned yet...offered me choice of subs...he had a bunch...so i wanted these kove armegeddon 10's...so we agreed and we both sent out our packages...i received mine and when i got them out of the box one of them would not move.(burnt coil or separated coil)..so he told me damaged in shipping file a claim...but he has the receipt so i told him he had to...so he says i will send you a pair of kicker 1999 comp vr's...i said sure...got them in yesterday and one of them rattles in side the coile...he will not answere my emails of prior attemts...so here i am two bad speakers and two working speakers....does this equal scammer or what...or just he has a bunch of junk speakers...just wanted to vent...pisses me off..