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[Buck 5,000+ posts]

It's not nothingness, it's an accurate description of the anti-vax crowd.

Proper context - just supply us with the whole set of facts. You're the one complaining about CDC Director (among others) telling people to get the vax with no mention of the side effect; yet you seem to have no issue with anti-vaxxers talking about the side effects with no mention of the of millions of lives saved or the 100s of millions of people suffering no side effects. Armed with half the facts anybody can twist and distort reality to fit whatever agenda they might have. Armed with half the facts the CDC Director can make it sound like the vax is bullet proof.

Remember when "you guys" were saying the vax was driving the mutations in the protein spike? But now that that mutation has lead to the drastically less deadly omicron variant, why isn't the vax getting credit? (<- rhetorical) Whenever I see double standards like that, I know there is greater single standard behind them. In this case, I highly suspect that many people have an agenda to use pseudo science to make the vaccine look as bad possible. Are you saying I'm wrong?

Does that mean if nobody took the vaccines then we’d have way less variants to have to become immune to? The vaccines don’t stop infection and cause mutations and the next vaccines don’t stop infection and cause mutations…

And you’re more likely to get covid when your vaccine wears off. And they don’t protect against the variants…they’re all specific. It just doesn’t add up. You’re gonna wind up with a compromised immune system trying to fight some variant of Covid that your current vaccine isn’t programmed for and where the old vaccine’s effects have worn off, which only takes a few months. Maybe that’s why natural immunity works the best…

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

It's not nothingness, it's an accurate description of the anti-vax crowd.

Proper context - just supply us with the whole set of facts. You're the one complaining about CDC Director (among others) telling people to get the vax with no mention of the side effect; yet you seem to have no issue with anti-vaxxers talking about the side effects with no mention of the of millions of lives saved or the 100s of millions of people suffering no side effects. Armed with half the facts anybody can twist and distort reality to fit whatever agenda they might have. Armed with half the facts the CDC Director can make it sound like the vax is bullet proof.

Remember when "you guys" were saying the vax was driving the mutations in the protein spike? But now that that mutation has lead to the drastically less deadly omicron variant, why isn't the vax getting credit? (<- rhetorical) Whenever I see double standards like that, I know there is greater single standard behind them. In this case, I highly suspect that many people have an agenda to use pseudo science to make the vaccine look as bad possible. Are you saying I'm wrong?

My opinion... if I may. I don't think the vaccines are doing what they are supposed to do. I think they hurt many people and the people they appear to not be hurting... yet, are fighting the COVID with their bodies first and foremost, secondary help from the vaccine which is negligible and because they are still alive want to give credit fully to the vaccine. At best the vaccines may be effective like weak flue shots however with deadly side effects. Credit needs to be given to natural immunity in my opinion even in the vaxxed.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

They are trying to put MRNA into the food supply. That’s not AJ just saying that; that is a plan. They want to skip your informed consent and just vaccinate you through food.

How do “they” plan to do this?
Will “they” sneak it into my pizza, or will it be at the consent of the pizzeria?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Does that mean if nobody took the vaccines then we’d have way less variants to have to become immune to? The vaccines don’t stop infection and cause mutations and the next vaccines don’t stop infection and cause mutations…

And you’re more likely to get covid when your vaccine wears off. And they don’t protect against the variants…they’re all specific. It just doesn’t add up. You’re gonna wind up with a compromised immune system trying to fight some variant of Covid that your current vaccine isn’t programmed for and where the old vaccine’s effects have worn off, which only takes a few months. Maybe that’s why natural immunity works the best…

No vaccine stops an infection. They never have.
If you are judging a vaccine based on that metric, you probably get disappointed that a screwdriver doesn’t drive nails well.

And it’s been proved that having COVID doesn’t reduce the chances you will get it again.

Learn the proper metrics to judge things by before you pass your judgement.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

No vaccine stops an infection. They never have.
If you are judging a vaccine based on that metric, you probably get disappointed that a screwdriver doesn’t drive nails well.

And it’s been proved that having COVID doesn’t reduce the chances you will get it again.

Learn the proper metrics to judge things by before you pass your judgement.

You've already shown you'll make sh!t up to prove your point...there's zero reason for anyone to believe anything from you

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

My opinion... if I may. I don't think the vaccines are doing what they are supposed to do. I think they hurt many people and the people they appear to not be hurting... yet, are fighting the COVID with their bodies first and foremost, secondary help from the vaccine which is negligible and because they are still alive want to give credit fully to the vaccine. At best the vaccines may be effective like weak flue shots however with deadly side effects. Credit needs to be given to natural immunity in my opinion even in the vaxxed.

The statistics show that your opinion is entirely incorrect.
Will you still hold on to your opinion simply because it’s what you WANT to be fact?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

The statistics show that your opinion is entirely incorrect.
Will you still hold on to your opinion simply because it’s what you WANT to be fact?

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A generic screenshot...definitely legit coming from ol' bob...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You've already shown you'll make sh!t up to prove your point...there's zero reason for anyone to believe anything from you

Ahh, are you in the camp that believes a vaccine stop’s infection?
That could explain a lot.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

A generic screenshot...definitely legit coming from ol' bob...

Oh ye of limited intelligence,

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Ahh, are you in the camp that believes a vaccine stop’s infection?
That could explain a lot.

I'm in the camp that don't believe...if you gonna lie about something small to make your point...everything you post is tainted...

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Oh ye of limited intelligence,

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Oh ye of limited integrity...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Ok? Hope you make it. I don’t think anyone wants anyone to die, besides maybe Bill Gates. Alex Jones is a radio host. Fauci, Trump, Biden, Birx, CEO of Pfizer, etc., are all extremely important and powerful figures that actually run things, and they all over hyped the vaccine without the data to support it. People have died and been injured from the vaccine that they were extremely coerced into taking. Jones isn’t in a position of power, but people who lie a whole lot f*cking more than Jones does are still investing in labs in China and completely misrepresenting the covid jabs’ safety and actual effectiveness. Jones is literally just a radio show host. The actual people in power are those whose actions I’m most concerned with.

So let me get this straight. So it's not which lie was being told, but who was telling the lie. The anti-vaxxers who lied are given a pass because they aren't as powerful and influential as Fauci, Trump, et al? By that logic, I assume you supported having their twitter, youtube, etc posts scrubbed and accounts locked, since afterall the less influential the liar is the better and twitter, etc could spread a lie as effectively as a Fauci interview on MSNBC. That's an interesting way to justify one set of lies while ignoring the other.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Oh ye of limited integrity...

You think quoting accurate stats instead of conspiracy nonsense is a sign of limited integrity?

Interesting. So you think the truth is bad.
Wow.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

You think quoting accurate stats instead of conspiracy nonsense is a sign of limited integrity?

Interesting. So you think the truth is bad.
Wow.

Nope I think anything coming from you needs to be doubted...you like to just make sh!t up

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

The statistics show that your opinion is entirely incorrect.
Will you still hold on to your opinion simply because it’s what you WANT to be fact?

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Yes. They don't know if it's the vaccine or just good old human biology at work.