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[r2daman Premium Member]

Why do u assume it’s fake

geez

 

[SlugButter]

To be a Firefighter or EMT even on a Volunteer Dept & Professionally, before you are allowed to go out on single call you have to go through a ton of vaccines. Same ones that the Military have to go through due to the stuff you are exposed to or possibly exposed to. I had all those vaccines when I was a FF'er. Even if you have them already and then join a new dept you might get boosters depending on the month/year you last got them. No vaccine no job simple as that. Some Firefighters have refused the Covid and have been fired or suspended for it. It is part of the contract you sign when you join that job that you must adhere to any regulations or vaccines that the department sees fit, refusal can cause you to be terminated or suspension until you comply. It is legal others have tried to stop it but have failed. As seen in LA recently not only with the Fire Dept but with the Police Dept. You get exposed to stuff that others don't on those jobs. Been there done that especially in my hometown where there was a Military Munitions Facility since before WW2 making them until they shut it down in the '70s iirc. There is still stuff out there that is hazardous and buried to this day.

I kinda meant private sector. Good point.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

What claims haven't i supported, mister law-firm receptionist?

The fact that you claim I work for a law firm is literally the most obvious one imaginable.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I kinda meant private sector. Good point.

You think hospitals are state run?

 

[Firewalker]

There is private EMT companies and Private Firefighting Companies as well. Same rules apply to them as well. That is one thing about having those certifications you can work for private companies on days off making damn good money. You usually work one 24 hour shift then 48 off when doing that professionally. Just to start at most places even back then it was 50-70K to start. Ex-friend of mine has been on his dept down there for 18 years. Started out at 50K and is now well over 100,000 a year. His wife is a trauma nurse, that industry pays well if you are willing to put the work in.

I was within 8 hours of finishing my Fire Science degree when I got told by my orthopedic after my 3rd knee surgery that was it I was done. No more dream no more being a firefighter and considering I had just gotten hired by a big city down there as one of their new people. I basically sat in the doctors office staring at the floor for almost 30 minutes not moving. 5.5 years of hard work down the drain, 5.5 years of testing, schooling, certifications that were now all worthless to me. Plus I was working full time 50 hours a week. That day killed me and still does. Even the doctor who I knew outside sat with me for that time trying to console me as my hands were shaking non-stop. It meant that much to me and still does so I have taken all those certifications and put them away never to be seen again as it just kills me every time.

But the doctor who was the White Sox Team Surgeon, said flat out he had never seen the inside of a knee like mine in 30 years of doing knee surgeries. I should have known then I was in trouble for it wasn't 4 years later I was disabled and then almost 10 years later confirmation of a genetic syndrome that no one studies in the US.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

There is private EMT companies and Private Firefighting Companies as well. Same rules apply to them as well. That is one thing about having those certifications you can work for private companies on days off making damn good money. You usually work one 24 hour shift then 48 off when doing that professionally. Just to start at most places even back then it was 50-70K to start. Ex-friend of mine has been on his dept down there for 18 years. Started out at 50K and is now well over 100,000 a year. His wife is a trauma nurse, that industry pays well if you are willing to put the work in.

I was within 8 hours of finishing my Fire Science degree when I got told by my orthopedic after my 3rd knee surgery that was it I was done. No more dream no more being a firefighter and considering I had just gotten hired by a big city down there as one of their new people. I basically sat in the doctors office staring at the floor for almost 30 minutes not moving. 5.5 years of hard work down the drain, 5.5 years of testing, schooling, certifications that were now all worthless to me. Plus I was working full time 50 hours a week. That day killed me and still does. Even the doctor who I knew outside sat with me for that time trying to console me as I was shaking non-stop. It meant that much to me and still does so I have taken all those certifications and put them away never to be seen again as it just kills me every time.

But the doctor who was the White Sox Team Surgeon, said flat out he had never seen the inside of a knee like mine in 30 years of doing knee surgeries. I should have known then I was in trouble for it wasn't 4 years later I was disabled and then almost 10 years later confirmation of a genetic syndrome that no one studies in the US.

I haven’t experienced it, but I’ve seen it represented really well in a number of movies. Basically being handed a career death sentence.
I know someone who was in year 3 at Air Force Academy and got in a bad skiing accident. Deaf in one ear with no obvious physical reason, his realizable goal as pilot down the tubes.
Can’t imagine the anguish.

 

[metalheadjoe 10+ year member]

The fact that you claim I work for a law firm is literally the most obvious one imaginable.

You said it yourself.

 

[SlugButter]

You think hospitals are state run?

Hospitals haven’t required a vaccine for nurses or doctors. You may believe Facebook memes, but my religious whacko anti-vax mother was a nurse for 20 years. My religious anti-vax doctor cousin just received an exemption, which she never had to get her whole career. I’m not sure what the fvck you’re talking about. Go back to Facebook where this fantasy land BS came from.

 

[SlugButter]

This Rob guy sure is obsessed with stabbing people, as long as he can vote for someone else to do the actual stabbing. What a coward. If Rob and everyone like him on earth died tomorrow it would be the greatest day in world history.

 

[Firewalker]

Actually local hospitals require a vaccine for nurses, doctors and any workers here and it is part of their employment. Only a religious exemption gets them out of vaccines here. And it is very hard to get that designation even with a couple of them being owned by Christian owned companies. Majority of the religious exemptions are denied from what I am told by some of the people who work there as at this point after 113 surgeries with probably 105 of them at the local hospitals, I know a lot of people that work there,lol. I can't even walk into the hospital without running into several people I know that have treated me and we are on a first name basis,lol. Does have it's perks though when I am hospitalized they let me do what I want with the rules only applying when some hard *** newbie throws a fit.

 

[SlugButter]

Actually local hospitals require a vaccine for nurses, doctors and any workers here and it is part of their employment. Only a religious exemption gets them out of vaccines here. And it is very hard to get that designation even with a couple of them being owned by Christian owned companies. Majority of the religious exemptions are denied from what I am told by some of the people who work there as at this point after 113 surgeries with probably 105 of them at the local hospitals, I know a lot of people that work there,lol. I can't even walk into the hospital without running into several people I know that have treated me and we are on a first name basis,lol. Does have it's perks though when I am hospitalized they let me do what I want with the rules only applying when some hard *** newbie throws a fit.

I was talking about prior to Covid. I don’t know what hospitals are like where you live, but in the 12 states I’ve lived in I had never even been asked about vaccine status before Covid. I literally have 3 unvaccinated family members working in hospitals right now here in Arizona even during Covid.

 

[Firewalker]

Even prior to covid it was a rule here for them to be vaccinated against certain things. I was asked multiple times before covid about what vaccines I have received when visiting a doctor for the 1st time. So they know what you have had done in your life and what boosters you need.

The hospitals in this area are very cautious thankfully and because of that they are all rated top 25 if not top 50 in the country for many things they do. Some are even in the top 10 lists for trauma, strokes and just overall ability because of that being cautious.

 

[SlugButter]

Even prior to covid it was a rule here for them to be vaccinated against certain things. I was asked multiple times before covid about what vaccines I have received when visiting a doctor for the 1st time. So they know what you have had done in your life and what boosters you need.

The hospitals in this area are very cautious thankfully and because of that they are all rated top 25 if not top 50 in the country for many things they do. Some are even in the top 10 lists for trauma, strokes and just overall ability because of that being cautious.

I think we are talking about different things. I just got a tetanus booster at my own request with my last hospital visit, but I had never been asked about vaccine status. Been to the ER and had a ton of hospital visits back in my snow boarding and skate boarding days. Never remember even one discussion about vaccines in the hospital stays I’ve had, in multiple states. Weird. I’d just never paid attention maybe.

 

[Firewalker]

I have been asked about vaccine status for years locally going back 20 years here and almost 30 years in Illinois. They do it to determine what you have had and what boosters you need. For some hospitals and doctors they have asked before covid was a thing.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You said it yourself.

Nope. You may BELIEVE it, but that’s the perfect example of why feelings and beliefs are not a great way to support an argument.