What is?

[SlugButter]

Besides, I can’t be racist mother fvcker. I listen to Tracy Chapman…….

 

[RobGMN]

You specifically went after Mississippi yourself. I made no mention of that state ever before now. Those are just the numbers Rob. Are you disputing facts? You mention a state and accuse it of taking tons of welfare, and it just happens to have the most black people by percentage in the country. You’re a racist. The facts prove it.

I did? Care to provide a quote?
I’m pretty sure I listed the top ten taker and the top ten giver states.

If Mississippi is on the list, does that mean I’m singling them out? If they are only 37% black citizens, wouldn’t that be saying the white ones are the takers?
Why are you automatically assuming only black peoples benefit from the federal funds that flow from giver states to taker states?

But, I’ll wait for your quote of my post before I ask more questions.

 

[SlugButter]

I did? Care to provide a quote?
I’m pretty sure I listed the top ten taker and the top ten giver states.

If Mississippi is on the list, does that mean I’m singling them out? If they are only 37% black citizens, wouldn’t that be saying the white ones are the takers?
Why are you automatically assuming only black peoples benefit from the federal funds that flow from giver states to taker states?

But, I’ll wait for your quote of my post before I ask more questions.

Meh. I don’t care enough to go back 100 pages. This is a regurgitated conversation that was already had by you. You can claim you didn’t say it, but that makes you a racist and a liar. Or just a stupid racist who can’t remember what his own words were.

 

[RobGMN]

Meh. I don’t care enough to go back 100 pages. This is a regurgitated conversation that was already had by you. You can claim you didn’t say it, but that makes you a racist and a liar. Or just a stupid racist who can’t remember what his own words were.

You don't have to go back 100 pages. Just search the term "mississippi" as posted by me.
Share your results.
Don't be a Thxone and make claims with no ability to back them up.

He is the guy who can't remember his own posts, not me. You seem to have a little trouble too.

 

[SlugButter]

You don't have to go back 100 pages. Just search the term "mississippi" as posted by me.
Share your results.

I might find out I’m wrong, and I don’t like you. You’re bypassing the actual point anyway about you claiming red states take more welfare. Mississippi is one of those states. So is Alabama. Are you saying republican states shouldn’t get federal welfare funding for their citizens? It’s confusing as to why you’d even use that number in an argument. It’s hate cloaked in a BS scent of morality, just like all your other arguments. The numbers you dig up is a reflection of that.

 

[RobGMN]

I might find out I’m wrong, and I don’t like you. You’re bypassing the actual point anyway about you claiming red states take more welfare. Mississippi is one of those states. So is Alabama. Are you saying republican states shouldn’t get federal welfare funding for their citizens? It’s confusing as to why you’d even use that number in an argument. It’s hate cloaked in a BS scent of morality, just like all your other arguments. The numbers you dig up is a reflection of that.

Are you having an episode?
I'm saying that if Republicans are going to shout "anti-welfare" rhetoric as part of their platform, then Republican states should NOT occupy 7/8:10 spots on the list of states that take more than they give. It's hypocritical. They should walk the walk and be the states that get the lowest amount of money back for what they put in.
THAT would be showing how truly "anti-welfare" they are.

Sorry, but the numbers are not my opinion or a "talking point" I pulled out of the air like Thx does. They are factual.
Why do you feel that statistical data is "hate"/ Is it a problem with facts in general, or just facts that point out things that portray Republicans in a bad light?

 

[Jimi77]

When the money goes in bulk to states and then gets divided up as needed for the variety of uses (social services, infrastructure, veteran services, etc), then you could consider any money that goes to a state in excess of what the state contributes as “welfare”.

A silly example, but let’s say Kentucky contributes $1,000 to the tax base and gets back $1,900. They use the money to fix state roads that they otherwise would not have been able to fix. They have received “welfare” which is “aid in the form of money to those in need”, because they are unable to meet their own needs.

I mentioned previously that the federal funds that flow to the states get divided up amongst a variety of uses. Social welfare is a part of the basket, but not the whole basket.

Imho, this is like the "internally bridged" mono amplifier. Bridged has specific meaning when discussing amps, so while " internally bridged" could be construed as technically correct it just causes confusion. Wealth transfer is a more accurate description IMHO.

 

[SlugButter]

Are you having an episode?
I'm saying that if Republicans are going to shout "anti-welfare" rhetoric as part of their platform, then Republican states should NOT occupy 7/8:10 spots on the list of states that take more than they give. It's hypocritical. They should walk the walk and be the states that get the lowest amount of money back for what they put in.
THAT would be showing how truly "anti-welfare" they are.

Sorry, but the numbers are not my opinion or a "talking point" I pulled out of the air like Thx does. They are factual.
Why do you feel that statistical data is "hate"/ Is it a problem with facts in general, or just facts that point out things that portray Republicans in a bad light?

When you say numbers and data can’t be used as hate, you miss the fact that I just falsely did it to you, and some people would believe it. Facts can be whatever you want them to be when you look for them the way you do. You don’t care to learn more about a problem, you look for facts to support a political agenda and to troll someone on the internet. You can’t actually believe that you Impartially gather facts. That’s a joke.

 

[SlugButter]

This is why it matters. Let’s say a liberal truly believes in reparations, but some jerk off liberal like Rob takes charge instead, resulting in the democrat party being turned into a joke because people like Rob vote for other people like Rob. There’s a danger of black people not getting reparations in Republican areas because a hateful liberal who only gathers a few numbers to debate a Republican just didn’t know what they needed to know. It works this way with every issue.

 

[RobGMN]

When you say numbers and data can’t be used as hate, you miss the fact that I just falsely did it to you, and some people would believe it. Facts can be whatever you want them to be when you look for them the way you do. You don’t care to learn more about a problem, you look for facts to support a political agenda and to troll someone on the internet. You can’t actually believe that you Impartially gather facts. That’s a joke.

This is why it matters. Let’s say a liberal truly believes in reparations, but some jerk off liberal like Rob takes charge instead, resulting in the democrat party being turned into a joke because people like Rob vote for other people like Rob. There’s a danger of black people not getting reparations in Republican areas because a hateful liberal who only gathers a few numbers to debate a Republican just didn’t know what they needed to know. It works this way with every issue.

Facts cannot “be whatever you want them to be”. That’s one of the things that differentiate facts from feelings/faiths/beliefs/opinions/etc.

Facts are facts unless they are disproved. Thxone tried to counter the economic stats by claiming the numbers are “fiddled” with to change the political leanings of a state. Without proof of his claim, the political leanings remain as they are.
This is not a discussion of the problem, it’s a discussion of the facts of the money flow, and the hypocrisy of the people who “oppose” it.
If you want to discuss the problem and how it can be fixed, we can do that. Just don’t use it as a diversion from the bullshit claims being made in contradiction of the facts.

I’m not really sure where reparations fit into the discussion, even with your attempted analogy. You are saying a liberal will ruin reparations for black people in a Republican area due to not knowing numbers, which speaks nothing to the concept of Red states being the top of the “takers” while Republicans claim to be “anti-take”.
Are you suggesting the economic data showing the money flow is created by a liberal who doesn’t understand the metrics, and no one has noticed the error/s?

 

[RobGMN]

Imho, this is like the "internally bridged" mono amplifier. Bridged has specific meaning when discussing amps, so while " internally bridged" could be construed as technically correct it just causes confusion. Wealth transfer is a more accurate description IMHO.

I suppose people could confuse it with “social welfare programs”. Wealth transfer might be confusing too, as some might think “Robin Hood”.

What would be a good simple term that says exactly what it is?

 

[SlugButter]

Facts cannot “be whatever you want them to be”. That’s one of the things that differentiate facts from feelings/faiths/beliefs/opinions/etc.

Facts are facts unless they are disproved. Thxone tried to counter the economic stats by claiming the numbers are “fiddled” with to change the political leanings of a state. Without proof of his claim, the political leanings remain as they are.
This is not a discussion of the problem, it’s a discussion of the facts of the money flow, and the hypocrisy of the people who “oppose” it.
If you want to discuss the problem and how it can be fixed, we can do that. Just don’t use it as a diversion from the bullshit claims being made in contradiction of the facts.

I’m not really sure where reparations fit into the discussion, even with your attempted analogy. You are saying a liberal will ruin reparations for black people in a Republican area due to not knowing numbers, which speaks nothing to the concept of Red states being the top of the “takers” while Republicans claim to be “anti-take”.
Are you suggesting the economic data showing the money flow is created by a liberal who doesn’t understand the metrics, and no one has noticed the error/s?

Facts can build a narrative depending on which facts are disclosed and which facts are buried. That’s exactly the game you play here. When’s the last time you searched for facts that challenged your world narrative?

 

[ThxOne]

You don't have to go back 100 pages. Just search the term "mississippi" as posted by me.
Share your results.
Don't be a Thxone and make claims with no ability to back them up.

He is the guy who can't remember his own posts, not me. You seem to have a little trouble too.

HEYYYYYYY Not cool bruh, I didn't even say anything! Plus, I am black, why you treating me like this?

 

[RobGMN]

Facts can build a narrative depending on which facts are disclosed and which facts are buried. That’s exactly the game you play here. When’s the last time you searched for facts that challenged your world narrative?

My “world narrative”. WTF are you even talking about?

 

[RobGMN]

HEYYYYYYY Not cool bruh, I didn't even say anything! Plus, I am black, why you treating me like this?

I could care less if you were green. What does your skin color have to do with this discussion?

But be careful, Slug might accuse you of things if you are black.