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[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Honey Buns are actually low in cholesterol. Processed food often contain fully hydrogenated oils, which wreck havoc on your cholesterol #s.

Honey buns are very high in saturated fat. Around 60%-80% of your daily saturated fat in one honey bun. I only eat a couple of them a year. It would be interesting if everybody could be honest and post there height and weight here. We can try. I'm 5'11" tall and 195 lbs.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Wow! More truth is coming out

BREAKING: ICAN Wins Lawsuit Forcing CDC to Turn Over V-SAFE Covid Vaccine Injury Data - Shows 7.7% Seek Medical Care After Vaccination and 25% Have Serious Side Effects (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN) just recently won a major lawsuit brought against the CDC, requiring the agency to turn over its V-safe COVID Vaccine Injury Data.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Sofa king stupid! I wouldn't expect anything less from a ******* like this. Anti-vaxxers won't get the vaccine but then want to give Trump credit for the vaccine. Meanwhile their cult leader is vaccinated.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Lemme try this again...

Yes and no and I'll explain my thoughts best I can.
Pharma has been chasing the common flu for decades now and claim to have an average success rate up to 60% effective but real world numbers tend to be in the 20s. 4 months after the pandemic and several companies at the same time claim success?? I call bulshit. If they can solve the deadliest virus of all times in only months why can't they put a dent in cancer, Parkinson, MS, dementia etc etc??
It simply makes me question the motives and integrity of it all.

Dr have refused antivirals but will push the flu vax. Antivirals have a high success rate so the hesitancy is odd IMHO.

That being the case, I question rhe legitimacy that the rona vax was both 100% effective at stopping it or slowing it BECAUSE we lacked the large scale AND long-term results to confirm the theories of efficacy. Like many viruses it has mutated several times so it's like the flu, pharma is chasing theories of what might work.

Combine that with survival rates upwards of 99+% there was no need for it for most people.

Vents did more harm than good.
Dr refused alternative treatment protocols. Hcq was shown to be effective but people's political beliefs actually caused people to die because hospitals and doctors refused to use what was known to work, solely because it was some sort of anti trump/anti of the anti rona vax power trip.

My Dr uses hcq, zinc and prednisone and has a 100% success rate. The local hospital started similar treatments and approached 100% as well.

Masks material is too large to prevent viral passage. Masks lower respiratory particulate.
If people didn't use them during flu season I call them hacks. Got good friends I talk shit too over this.
But why did it take this to get people to wash their hands and cover their mouths? Thats an odd one...

We need exposure to develop and maintain our immune system. I'm often around very unsanitary coughing TB, 3rd world disease conditions but I don't wear a mask and I still drink my coffee when I'm working. I'm rarely sick. And if I feel under the weather I load up on lysine, Quercetin and NAC. Each exhibits different pathways of benefit for a well covered approach at prevention and treatment.

Quick question, why are we seeing so many commercial for pharmaceuticals? Advertising dollars produce the biggest return

The death rate was up around 3% of people infected at the beginning. I don't remember anybody saying that the vax would totally eradicate Covid 100%. It did lower the death rate by quite a bit. Do you really think Doctors didn't treat patients because they didn't like Trump? It's interesting how Republicans don't want to get vaxxed but want to give Trump credit for the vaccine. It's also funny how Republicans want to blame all the stimulus checks for our current inflation but forget that Trump forced his name to be on those checks. Would you have worn a mask if the HIV virus was airborne? Why did every other country in the World wear masks if they didn't help (not prevent)? Why were people begging for the vaccination when they were dying in the hospital if it doesn't help? I think we know who they voted for.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

It goes both ways. We could say Jabbers believed everything the government and big pharma sold them
5 boosters now?? Seriously how does anyone not question the validity? Studies are already showing suppressed immune systems and antibodies are barely registering as soon as 45 days. You literally need monthly boosters if they're so necessary.

Even if only 8% had adverse reactions, we still have to fall back on the campaign of 100% effective( but you need 5 boosters) and 100% safe, which it isn't.

Many will never agree on the best course of action and we probably won't have full disclosure for the health issues. Sudden adult death syndrome, how is that a thing now and some don't find that a bit peculiar?

Here’s information on SADS from 2006. Is it a “thing” now, or just a thing that the anti-vaxxers can use to say “the vaccine is killing us!!”?

2006 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16923744/

2007 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1955549/#!po=2.50000

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Science has provided good and it has caused harm. Governments and pharma needs to stop selling drugs as the cure all when often all they do now is treat symptoms.

Plenty of folks like their treats and junk food but give them the info to make informed decisions.

I know the risks with alcohol but I am not giving it up.

Oddly enough the government pushed for c19 vax in "the name of health," but I ain't seen no fukers getting on the treadmill or hitting the weights 4xs per week?

The government will never mandate such as it will put a big dent in big pharma profits.

The gov't has indeed mandated that people be given the info to make informed decisions. For example, how did I know Honey Buns are actually low in Cholesterol? The gov't mandates that the companies put that information on the package.

It goes both ways. We could say Jabbers believed everything the government and big pharma sold them
5 boosters now?? Seriously how does anyone not question the validity? Studies are already showing suppressed immune systems and antibodies are barely registering as soon as 45 days. You literally need monthly boosters if they're so necessary.

Even if only 8% had adverse reactions, we still have to fall back on the campaign of 100% effective( but you need 5 boosters) and 100% safe, which it isn't.

Many will never agree on the best course of action and we probably won't have full disclosure for the health issues. Sudden adult death syndrome, how is that a thing now and some don't find that a bit peculiar?

The gov't didn't tell me any lies though. Neither did Pfizer, unless you have evidence to the contrary. Show me an actually peer reviewed study that shows immunity wanes in 45 days. Again, just because you want to believe it doesn't mean there is actual evidence to prove it.

100% safe no, 99.99% safe - that's pretty close. How do we not have full disclosure? You guys crack me up, wtf is the VAERS report. Nothing in the history of mankind has been covered to the extent that Covid 19 has.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Lemme try this again...

Yes and no and I'll explain my thoughts best I can.
Pharma has been chasing the common flu for decades now and claim to have an average success rate up to 60% effective but real world numbers tend to be in the 20s. 4 months after the pandemic and several companies at the same time claim success?? I call bulshit. If they can solve the deadliest virus of all times in only months why can't they put a dent in cancer, Parkinson, MS, dementia etc etc??
It simply makes me question the motives and integrity of it all.

Dr have refused antivirals but will push the flu vax. Antivirals have a high success rate so the hesitancy is odd IMHO.

That being the case, I question rhe legitimacy that the rona vax was both 100% effective at stopping it or slowing it BECAUSE we lacked the large scale AND long-term results to confirm the theories of efficacy. Like many viruses it has mutated several times so it's like the flu, pharma is chasing theories of what might work.

Combine that with survival rates upwards of 99+% there was no need for it for most people.

Vents did more harm than good.
Dr refused alternative treatment protocols. Hcq was shown to be effective but people's political beliefs actually caused people to die because hospitals and doctors refused to use what was known to work, solely because it was some sort of anti trump/anti of the anti rona vax power trip.

My Dr uses hcq, zinc and prednisone and has a 100% success rate. The local hospital started similar treatments and approached 100% as well.

Masks material is too large to prevent viral passage. Masks lower respiratory particulate.
If people didn't use them during flu season I call them hacks. Got good friends I talk shit too over this.
But why did it take this to get people to wash their hands and cover their mouths? Thats an odd one...

We need exposure to develop and maintain our immune system. I'm often around very unsanitary coughing TB, 3rd world disease conditions but I don't wear a mask and I still drink my coffee when I'm working. I'm rarely sick. And if I feel under the weather I load up on lysine, Quercetin and NAC. Each exhibits different pathways of benefit for a well covered approach at prevention and treatment.

Quick question, why are we seeing so many commercial for pharmaceuticals? Advertising dollars produce the biggest return

OMG, now the efficacy of flu shots has dropped to 20%.

Covid isn't the deadliest virus of all time - not by a long shot. Why can't the solve dementia, cancer, etc.
Maybe because those are little tougher than finding a way to trigger an immune reaction. Furthermore, they have put a dent in cancer... Again it's like you're not thinking about what you say before you say it.

Do you have any actual evidence that doctors are refusing antivirals? Just so we're clear, I mean actual Covid antivirals (ie monoclonal antibodies), not something right wing podcasters say works (ie Ivermectin).

Masks were recommended/mandated to slow the rate of infection not completely prevent it. By slowing the rate of infection, masks prevented (probably) millions of cases.

Exposure is the key a healthy immune system, then why do you oppose vaccines, which are just a controlled way to expose the immune system??? FYI, Gillian Barre syndrome, myocarditis, clotting, etc are caused by the immune system, so exposure is good until it isn't.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Honey buns are very high in saturated fat. Around 60%-80% of your daily saturated fat in one honey bun. I only eat a couple of them a year. It would be interesting if everybody could be honest and post there height and weight here. We can try. I'm 5'11" tall and 195 lbs.

6ft 200-210#.

30% of your saturated fat. 2% of your cholesterol.

Robot or human?

www.walmart.com

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Point. Missed.
If you want to give CDC info, then give CDC info, not links to a fake-news conspiracy-theory-laden website.
'Ever hear of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"?

He doesn't want to give CDC info. He wants to twist and distort CDC info to fit a narrative. CDC data is fraud and lies, until he thinks it supports his position....

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

6ft 200-210#.

30% of your saturated fat. 2% of your cholesterol.

Robot or human?

www.walmart.com

That's if you only eat half of it. Do you want proof. The first one is the chocolate honey bun (80%). The second on is the standard glazed (60%).

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

That's if you only eat half of it. Do you want proof. The first one is the chocolate honey bun (80%). The second on is the standard glazed (60%).

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Didn't see the 1/2 a bun. Who TF eats half a bun???

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Who censored her and called her a liar?
if the Dr diagnosed myocarditis, that's pretty easy to show she was not a liar. If the Dr attributed to the vax, it's pretty easy to show she is not a liar.
That's the nice thing about facts, evidence, and proofs.
As opposed to "my sister's friend's mother's coworker's son became sterile after getting the shot".

You're still trying real hard to say the vax is a failure and a killer.
Continuing to use Twitter and fake-news websites as your resources for info continues to look dumb.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

‘"Surprisingly, only spike protein but no nucleocapsid protein could be detected within the foci of inflammation in both the brain and the heart, particularly in the endothelial cells of small blood vessels. Since no nucleocapsid protein could be detected, the presence of spike protein must be ascribed to vaccination rather than to viral infection. The findings corroborate previous reports of encephalitis and myocarditis caused by gene-based COVID-19 vaccines."’

Pfizer mRNA Spike Protein Found in Deceased Man’s Brain and Heart: Peer-Reviewed Report

“We know it goes to the brain, it goes to the heart, it produces the spike protein, which damages those cells, causes inflammation... it travels... causing damage to blood vessels and blood clots."

kanekoa.substack.com

 

[powerlifter405]

The death rate was up around 3% of people infected at the beginning. I don't remember anybody saying that the vax would totally eradicate Covid 100%. It did lower the death rate by quite a bit. Do you really think Doctors didn't treat patients because they didn't like Trump? It's interesting how Republicans don't want to get vaxxed but want to give Trump credit for the vaccine. It's also funny how Republicans want to blame all the stimulus checks for our current inflation but forget that Trump forced his name to be on those checks. Would you have worn a mask if the HIV virus was airborne? Why did every other country in the World wear masks if they didn't help (not prevent)? Why were people begging for the vaccination when they were dying in the hospital if it doesn't help? I think we know who they voted for.

Just 2 of several I've read about over the years. Some were dumb enough to brag about it on Social media

Opinion | A doctor said he won't treat patients who didn't get the Covid vaccine. Can he do that?

Taking vaccination status into account when deciding whether to treat a patient can be acceptable — sometimes.

www.nbcnews.com

Dr. Jason Valentine, a family medicine physician at the Diagnostic and Medical Clinic Infirmary Health in Mobile, Alabama, informed his patients this month that, effective Oct. 1, he would no longer treat those who hadn’t been vaccinated against Covid-19. Around the same time, a leaked memo indicated that the North Texas Mass Critical Care Guideline Task Force was considering whether to take Covid vaccination status into account in deciding who gets ICU beds when more of them are needed than are available.

 

[powerlifter405]

The death rate was up around 3% of people infected at the beginning. I don't remember anybody saying that the vax would totally eradicate Covid 100%. It did lower the death rate by quite a bit. Do you really think Doctors didn't treat patients because they didn't like Trump? It's interesting how Republicans don't want to get vaxxed but want to give Trump credit for the vaccine. It's also funny how Republicans want to blame all the stimulus checks for our current inflation but forget that Trump forced his name to be on those checks. Would you have worn a mask if the HIV virus was airborne? Why did every other country in the World wear masks if they didn't help (not prevent)? Why were people begging for the vaccination when they were dying in the hospital if it doesn't help? I think we know who they voted for.

I personally never gave anyone credit and from day one I believed it was piss poor "Science." How they crammed 10-12 years of research and refinement into 4 months is beyond my scientific understanding.
Really, I don't care who pushed it, dems or repubs, I don't think it is viable considering it was the 1st "approved" mRNA, still on EUA as I recall.
In another 10 years or so it might be more refined or more likely it will continue to mutate and it will be like the flu and it will be a tail chasing dog and pony always trying to guess the newest strain.