What is the Biggest and Loudest 12" subwoofer for rock music only?

[Wattser93 10+ year member]

Yet another "which subs should I get to improve my midbass" thread. I just love these.

A sub is a lot cheaper and louder to attain a good impact on kick drums. Sure 8" midbasses on 350RMS each in sealed and deadened doors each will sound better for kick drums, but not everybody pisses away every penny they have on stereo equipment. A sub is cheaper and louder, he wants it loud, a sub will get loud for cheap, problem solved.

 

[DarkScorpion 10+ year member]

A sub is a lot cheaper and louder to attain a good impact on kick drums. Sure 8" midbasses on 350RMS each in sealed and deadened doors each will sound better for kick drums, but not everybody pisses away every penny they have on stereo equipment. A sub is cheaper and louder, he wants it loud, a sub will get loud for cheap, problem solved.

I'd say most of a kick drum's frequency is in the 80-250hz range; A subwoofer isn't meant to play into that range at all. You'll occasionally have a kick drum with a very low pitch, but it would be better to invest in better mids. No, he doesn't need dedicated midbasses either - a 2-way setup up front will be sufficient.

And no one said he needed to piss away money. If anything, he'd be pissing away money by trying to address a problem area with the incorrect approach.

 

[Brian_smith06 10+ year member]

Haha. You've got to be kidding me.
IDMAX and 1000RMS maybe?

they dont even need that much power to get loud. Mine sounded great off of 500. But it def does get down with 1000 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Wattser93 10+ year member]

I listen quite frequently to metal/rock/alternative and a good percentage of the kicks are felt through the sub. It could be picking up octaves or something but my sub definitely is moving on kicks when LPF at a 12db slope at 80hz.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

A sub is a lot cheaper and louder to attain a good impact on kick drums. Sure 8" midbasses on 350RMS each in sealed and deadened doors each will sound better for kick drums, but not everybody pisses away every penny they have on stereo equipment. A sub is cheaper and louder, he wants it loud, a sub will get loud for cheap, problem solved.

Oh, so its just about output intensity? Why not run your sub full range and enjoy that mono goodness then?

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I listen quite frequently to metal/rock/alternative and a good percentage of the kicks are felt through the sub. It could be picking up octaves or something but my sub definitely is moving on kicks when LPF at a 12db slope at 80hz.

80hz @ 12db is by far the most common filter settings for a subwoofer, that doesn't make them ideal. If your front stage was solid, you'd want your subs to be lowpassed arounf 50-60hz with a much steeper slope. Dont let the inadequacies in your stereo fool you into believing things must work that way.