i always say it and always go by this rule - when u dont have enough $$$for what u want, dont just get something that will 'do the job for now and whne i get more $$$ ill get the good stuff' - waste o money. save a lil more, wait a bit longer - my first system, years ago - i saved for it for 3 years, imagine that, 3 fkn years when everyone's going to comps or jusrt showing off..............hahhahahah they all said.............but when my eclipse alum dvc's (x 3) came through, my ID chameleons, my linear power and rockford amps and a BIG ported box all every1 could say was //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

and all i could say was //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
$450 - its not a bad bass budget, but personally i would wait a lil bit and get, say $200 more, that way you're in a comlletely different league. anyway,
ebay would be the way to go but if u dont fancy getting involved with that, have a look at the shivas, the jbl amps on
http://www.nowonspecial.com or
http://www.ikesound.com (up to $275 for a big 1200.1), RE's and DDs low end stuff - even the DD2000 series kick ***!