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[netherland24 5,000+ posts]

**** surpised by that thread... thanks for the link.. so i understand the basics of the amp. now i know AUDIson has it "name" up on the top of list for SQ but how would something like a KICKER SX amp rank? i mean there digital stuff is pretty cool and with the controller i would guess it is handy i dont know really of another amp thats in that price range that offers that

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

how would something like a KICKER SX amp rank? i mean there digital stuff is pretty cool and with the controller i would guess it is handy i dont know really of another amp thats in that price range that offers that

Just as good of a divice that amplifies the sound signal at half the cost

The SX's processing is digital, but it still comes in analog and goes out analog...I would think of it as more efficient and obviously a different way of doing it by design, not necessarly better. Also, I think Kicker is in the business of making cooler things for their coustomers who want cooler stuff like "digital." As a whole, the car audio market is driven on numbers, hype, and the bling factor....and Kicker is a big player in the market these days and they don't want to loose their position.

Companies like Audison and Zapco to name a few, don't seem to be so much concerned with these things. I was looking at the Zed Audio line for a while and those amps are built like tanks....but they are ugly as hell...sure not a pretty as the Kicker SX's:yumyum:

 

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

So I should rather just go for two two channels amps to power the Z6's? Maybe I can just throw my Current fronts in the rear?

Thats what I figured though, 100 watts wasn't enough. But this would be the first time I Bi-amped one of my speakers then. This should be intriguing. So find something that'll put out 200-250 rms? Sounds good...any more recomendations besides the MB amp?

 

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

Well actually, I've been lookin' at that MB Quart 4250....That'll be all I need then...How do I Bi Amp it though? What exactly does that mean? Does it mean the tweets and the woofers themselves are going to be recieving 250 watts rms? Can the Tweets handle that amount of power? Does it make it sound better or is it going to be very harsh? Because I'm going for as much SQ as possible!

 

[netherland24 5,000+ posts]

its off topic but i will buy your subs/sub amp if u give me a good deal LOL

 

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

I'm sellin' the subs...not amp Using that to power the two 13w6v2's I'm gettin'.

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

Well actually, I've been lookin' at that MB Quart 4250....That'll be all I need then...How do I Bi Amp it though? What exactly does that mean? Does it mean the tweets and the woofers themselves are going to be recieving 250 watts rms? Can the Tweets handle that amount of power? Does it make it sound better or is it going to be very harsh? Because I'm going for as much SQ as possible!

What you will gain by biamping is the flexibility of tuning each part of the component (the tweet and mid) whereas you would not if you just ran the power to the passive x-over itself. You would not send 500 watts total to each side, you would send 250x2 which is essentially the same as 250x1 but with less control.

IMO, you might as well get a really nice 2 channel that will put out a ton of clean power to those Z's and call it a day. Remember they are 3 ohms, so any amp that does 250x2 @ 4 ohms would really equate to 333x2 @ 3 ohms....and those speakers would love it!!!

You could run the rears off the HU power if you have it to get some "rear fill." Been there, done that....it's more like rear waste IMO....unless of course you care about rear passengers or you listen to your music from your back seat

I've been the same position as you. At the end of the day, I chose to keep the passive x-overs for my fronts, add a midrange set, ditch the rear spearkers all together, and get a nice sub to tie it all together. I could see the need to biamp for competition or something, but it's kind of an un-needed process IMO. The Boston engineers put some time and energy into their passive x-over network - so much so that they keep it a big secret.....and at $1000 a set, you might as well utilize it.

The tweets are probably 6 ohms and I swear there's a guy on ECA running 250 watts to his active tweets of the Qaa4250:crazy:

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

Does it make it sound better or is it going to be very harsh? Because I'm going for as much SQ as possible!

The more power you have the more dynamic headroom you will have....which is a very nice thing. With less power available to drive the speakers, most have the tendency to crank the gains on the amp to increase the output, which if done unintellegently, can clip the signal and then you will get "harsh" sounds. With the additional power, you can keep the gains all the way down and essentially utilize the dynamics of the system without stressing it. Having said that, too much power really is not possible....sending 250w to your tweets won't blow them up unless you exceed the thermal capabilitites of them!! You can run as much clean power you want to them, but then why pay for more power than you really need to make it sound the way you want it.

I have 75 watts on my fronts and they sound better then when I had 250 watts on them before. This can be attributed to running a balanced signal to the amp, eliminating a lot of noise, and raising the sound floor....Zapco amps are a wonderful investment

 

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

Thanx a lot for all the knowlede, I love learnin' more about car audio that I don't already know. Thanx again for everything. So is that MB Quart amp though a good way to go or what 2 channel should I look into?

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

QAA2500 would ge a great choice for the frontstage, 250w x 2 @ 4ohm: http://ikesound.com/product-product_id/4142

If you really want power all around, the QAA4250 is 250w x 4 @ 4ohm for a pretty cheap price (though, unfortunately as mentioned, at ikesound) : http://ikesound.com/product-product_id/4143

But I honestly think that's way too much power to the rear. Way too much.

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

Yea, It is too bad that Ikesound is the only relatively affordable place to find one....I guess if I was buying one from them I'd definately go through ebay and pay by CC. You could go through a local dealer, but it would most likey be a special order item and would cost you your left nut!!!

And 250 to the rear is like 250 too much IMO!

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

And if you wanted a nice 2 channel with a ton of clean power and great features, the MBQ Reference raa2400 puts almost the same wattage as the Q but for half the price. You'd get about 325 watts @ 3 ohms of real world power to the Z's with it. I have one for sale if you are interested?

Quart also makes the raa4200 which does 100x4 @ 4, but is not enough for the Z's. That was benched at something like 115 x 4 @ 4.

Of course you have a ton of possibilities here for 2 channels...especially with the '06's rolling out...almost limitless

 

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

So If I get a 2 channel amp that would be the only thing I would be using for the front stage? Or would I need 2 2 channel amps for the front stage? Each 2 channel to each speaker and tweeter? Or would I buy a four channel for just the front stage alone? Little lost...

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

So If I get a 2 channel amp that would be the only thing I would be using for the front stage? Or would I need 2 2 channel amps for the front stage? Each 2 channel to each speaker and tweeter? Or would I buy a four channel for just the front stage alone? Little lost...

It all depends what you decide to do with your rears. If you are going to run them, most would advise to amplify them. I for one do not have rear speakers and many on this forum do not also. When I did have them I felt that it did not help, but hinder my goal of creating full and accurate soundstage like one would experience at a concert. Therefore I took them out completely.

There are many ways to configure your system, at least too many to mention. My advice would be to by a nice 2 channel for your fronts and call it a day.

 

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

So I would buy two 2 channel amps just to power the fronts or just one?