To eD or not to eD,that is the question

[locotony 10+ year member]

You're a douchebag.
I bet you post on ICIX?

Yes I do

How about that German radio preorder? Looks like it followed the lines of every other preorder eDuh has ever attempted to go through with...

Um it was russian and I got my money back promptly

Instead of taking preorders to get money to BUY THE PRODUCT YOU DON'T EVEN ****ING HAVE, why not order the god **** equipment before you take money for it, like every other successful company has?

Um it was a group buy no money was leaving the states until they were positive of warranty support

I hate douchebags that come here and spew the same "oh it's only like 5 people and they have a problem with Ben, so they are jackasses".

So what it always seems to be the same people in every thread with ED mentioned that slam ED

How about this...I was in 2 preorders, that were pushed on for MONTHS after I was PROMISED a product by X date. Every time I inquired, it was 'oh, we received them, we are just testing them before they go out, should ship in a few days' bullshit. Yet, they charged my card right after I made the initial order.

Had the Same issue of waiting 8 Months for my 13Ov2 but my card was never charged until it shipped

Oh, and lets not forget Ben lying to me about getting a few recones for the e-logo K's that he said parts are no longer manufactured for, when Destijl has a whole ****ing warehouse of said parts.

I don't really know the whole store there but am guessing someone would not sell hime the parts but i really can't comment>

So, is he done with Image Dynamics now? Is that why they are selling off a hundred or so woofers that look like they were intended for eDuh?

On to the next buildhouse, I suppose //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif

If you look at the specs they are not the same woofers open your eyes.

This is one of the main reasons I rarely post here as people are too Immature to look at facts vs listening to the I got screwed bandwagon, Yes I run a pretty much all ED setup right now, and have never had and issue with a product other than v1se and that was taken care of. I have run zapco, linear, orion, soundstream, ppi, ADS, JL, and the Old Zed built Hifonics stuff over the last 20 years and have to say that I have only received better customer service from Soundstream when they where in their Prime. Is ed my Favorite brand? No, it is what I am running at this time. If I had the Cash I would have all Audison Amps and probably Seas Lotus comps, But would still keep my 13Ov2.

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

Yes I do


Um it was russian and I got my money back promptly

Um it was a group buy no money was leaving the states until they were positive of warranty support

So what it always seems to be the same people in every thread with ED mentioned that slam ED

Had the Same issue of waiting 8 Months for my 13Ov2 but my card was never charged until it shipped

I don't really know the whole store there but am guessing someone would not sell hime the parts but i really can't comment>

If you look at the specs they are not the same woofers open your eyes.

This is one of the main reasons I rarely post here as people are too Immature to look at facts vs listening to the I got screwed bandwagon, Yes I run a pretty much all ED setup right now, and have never had and issue with a product other than v1se and that was taken care of. I have run zapco, linear, orion, soundstream, ppi, ADS, JL, and the Old Zed built Hifonics stuff over the last 20 years and have to say that I have only received better customer service from Soundstream when they where in their Prime. Is ed my Favorite brand? No, it is what I am running at this time. If I had the Cash I would have all Audison Amps and probably Seas Lotus comps, But would still keep my 13Ov2.

Sorry, Russian. Makes a whole world of difference.

Fact of the matter is, Ben should have done his research before he starts taking other peoples money, like he's done before. Why take money from customers if you are unsure of product ever being delivered? Horrible business ethics, as Ben has shown time and time again.

I waited several months for my 2 15A's...and my card was charged the next day after the order. I think I waited something like 5-6 months?

Also got charged on an original nine.1 order, waited several months for that, then the amps 'got stuck in Korea'. Yeah.

If Ben were to tell me he cannot acquire the parts, and point me to where I can, then ok...but to tell me that no one makes them, only to find out I can get a large quantity of the same parts, is bullshit.

I've never seen such shady business practices before. He's a horrible businessman, and he's shown that several times in the past. I'd truly be afraid to give him any more of my money.

I've dealt with just about every major car audio company there is- whether it be from a business standpoint, or a consumer standpoint. The pure crap that Ben spews to people is truly amazing.

Have fun with eDuh, and keep on truckin with the 1-year wait preorders.

 

[desertheat 10+ year member]

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[iagrdshaka 5,000+ posts]

Mitch If you want Unbiased opion go to eac and ask the same qeustion and you will get intelligent replies as you know that most of the people here are very biased against ED due to about 4-5 idiots who really have more of a personal beef with Ben Milne. I don't care what they say happened with their flatcone K,O, or A bottom line is ED has a great products now at a good price and certain people here cannot get over crap that happened 2 years ago.

Sir you do not have all of your facts straight about Ben aka The Douchebag. Gotta love empty promises and burnt bridges.

I bet Ben doesnt even give you a reach around at ISUX. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/sick.gif.b1847c8dabbfeeddbcf1a78052249e10.gif Sucks for you doesnt it. BTW I think its funny that one of the biggest idiots to ever to view the internet is actually a member of the Nazi mod team over there. thumperfbc I dont know if the man was born retarded or just plain fucked in the ear by Ben so much that he just turned into a mental patient. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 

[eisenhower 10+ year member]

I bought an eD 16kv2 and nine.2, a few years ago.

The sub was replaced by an ascendant audio atlas, which was a huge upgrade, for the same price as the kv2, and I hope to replace the amp later since it keeps overheating and gpong into protect.

I should also mention that I've been banned twice on icix for no apparent reason, maybe because I didn't kiss their ***** every other post, and yet they keep me on their **** mailing list and they wont stop ****ing emailing no matter how hard I tried, I eventually just blocked them.

eD is simply no better than any company you find on the wall at circuit city, plain as that. Not bad for the money, but not great either.

I know a few people who love eD, which is fine, but I havent had a terrific expirience with them myself.

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

i agree. had a 9.2 for a few months... the equipment is a little above mediocre at best. good bang for the buck

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

eD is simply no better than any company you find on the wall at circuit city, plain as that. Not bad for the money, but not great either

I dunno about everyone else, but I'd take a CC sold MTX/Kicker/Eclipse amp over a eDuh amp any day of the week. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

I dunno about everyone else, but I'd take a CC sold MTX/Kicker/Eclipse amp over a eDuh amp any day of the week. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

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You mean... VALUE ELECTRONICS amp correct?

nG

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

x2...
You mean... VALUE ELECTRONICS amp correct?

nG

hey hey Value electronics solid stuff //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

i guess eD's logo made it look nice hehe.

 

[eisenhower 10+ year member]

I dunno about everyone else, but I'd take a CC sold MTX/Kicker/Eclipse amp over a eDuh amp any day of the week. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

With the type marketing they do, it seems the goal for eD to get themselves on the CC wall.

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

hold hold on. i just read that thread about the cancelation of the order of the HU's on ICIX....

Wise move Ben. Sometimes things just don't work out in the world of business, and I applaud your efforts to make that product available. Sounds like a prudent thing to do in moving away from that deal (from the way it sounds). You've always impressed me as being a pretty smart guy with a good business sense. Now you can dedicate your efforts to getting those AV2's into production for us !....(I've been resisting purchasing any other subs until those AV2's are released). Keep me at the top of the list when they're ready....(hopefully they'll be available with black cones this go-round).

Hats off to you Ben, you've made the right call. Sounds as though they need a major business ethics upgrade! Thanks for the effort of putting this deal together, and as you said "When holding a group buy it's our responsibility to do what is best for our clients. In this instance I do not believe it is in anyone’s best interest to move forward." I agree completely, but it sadens me to see a 3 in 1 component slip away......

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edit: one more!

I feel very sorry! I like this HU very much and I respect the engineers making it. They are a great team (remember? they're a separate company). But the things that the owner of the trademark does make me feel really bad. Looks like those people don't know how to do business. It was an incredible opportunity to finally present the real product (not an exhibition sample) to the western market and it looks like they put all their efforts toward wasting that opportunity. I feel very-very sorry and disappointed.

lol ironyyyyy!

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

That is funny.

Gee, instead of doing some research, why don't I take people's money...then see if this is for real or not?

 

[jujumantb 10+ year member]

This is one of the main reasons I rarely post here as people are too Immature to look at facts vs listening to the I got screwed bandwagon,

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The ED thing has gotten blown up because of people who post negative things about them every opportunity they can regardless of whether they have had experience, or whether that experience is currently valid. I;m sick of somebody asking about an ED product and getting a reply:

"eduh haha (im clever how I used 'duh') they **** the owner is a douche and that makes all their current products ESPECIALLY the one being talked about horrible.."

Whether you like Ben really doesnt matter, whether their product line 2 years ago was good or not equally doesnt matter. Give it a rest...

FYI, I dont run ED, though I have used their drivers from every line since the beginning without ever having a single problem with the company or their products.

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

Bad business practice is bad business practice, period.

Would you deal with Enron if they opened back up?

 

[jujumantb 10+ year member]

Bad business practice is bad business practice, period.

cry about it, the business world is ruthless, nothing Ben ever did had enough grounding for not dealing with them, I was rewarded for this educated decision by owning many great products from them. I bet you dont shop at target/walmart etc because of their questional business practices too huh //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif Give me a break, you guys have some personal vendetta against them that is getting extremely old.