**The MLB Thread**

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

Sheff is a big letdown..... almost as big as glass-man Griffey.

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[audiobahn12989 10+ year member]

i was referring to andruw jones

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

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He looked like he'd be a freakin' champion when he came up with the Brewers..... it never materialized in my eyes. He puts up numbers but I think they could have been much much better this far into his career.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

He looked like he'd be a freakin' champion when he came up with the Brewers..... it never materialized in my eyes. He puts up numbers but I think they could have been much much better this far into his career.

he did win a championship

 

[audiobahn12989 10+ year member]

he sucked when he was with the braves

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

he sucked when he was with the braves

your saying sheffield sucked with the braves? are you retarded? he had a career year with the braves

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

I know tee, I meant more as a metaphor for being an all-time great. He's fairly low on my list because he's a slacker and never lived up to his potential.

 

[audiobahn12989 10+ year member]

well he might have but from what i remember he didnt do as good as he shouldve for that big salary he had

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

well he might have but from what i remember he didnt do as good as he shouldve for that big salary he had

in 2003 he had 39 homeruns, 132 rbi's, a 330 BA, 419 obp, 604 slugging percentage. that's pretty **** good. you're just crazy. he was only making 10-12 million that year

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

they let shcmidt go for 4 years 47 million but sign zito to a ridiculous contract? zito is overrated. terrible move. this offseason makes me cry and i bet slammed is ready to jump off the empire state building //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

no schmidt signed a 3 year 47 million contract. a bit over 15 mil a year. the reason why the giants decided not to resign for big money is because schmidt has been injured often since 2004 and because the front office and him clashed.

but is the signing a lil crazy? maybe but from what has been going on this off season, its all relative. zito has great durability but his numbers do not project him as a staff ace. but he was the prized free agent pitcher this off season so and with the exploding market, he got a huge contract. i am a giants fan and what hurts the length of the contract. maybe if it was for like 4-5 years i could handle 18 mil a year but 7 years is a freakn long time. but i do think zito will pitch well in pitcher friendly at&t park and also playing in pitcher friendly ballparks in LA and San Diego will help as well.

 

[audiobahn12989 10+ year member]

kk.....i wish the braves would get rid of chipper

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

no schmidt signed a 3 year 47 million contract. a bit over 15 mil a year. the reason why the giants decided not to resign for big money is because schmidt has been injured often since 2004 and because the front office and him clashed.

No. He hasn't been injured much at all. I know you're a giants fan and want to stay optimistic about your team but Schmidt made 29 starts in '05 and 32 starts in '06. That is not how many starts an injured pitcher makes. Truth is they lost a proven starter and just signed the ranch away for a starter that is even MORE shaky and less consistent than Schmidt. Not trying to knock you or your team but they lost out on this one.

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

No. He hasn't been injured much at all. I know you're a giants fan and want to stay optimistic about your team but Schmidt made 29 starts in '05 and 32 starts in '06. That is not how many starts an injured pitcher makes. Truth is they lost a proven starter and just signed the ranch away for a starter that is even MORE shaky and less consistent than Schmidt. Not trying to knock you or your team but they lost out on this one.

just because he made those starts doesn't mean he was healthy. he was fighting problems all year with his shoulder. look at his stats at the end of the season, he took a big fat dump. also again compare his stats in 2005, 2006 and compare to 2003, 2004. not even close. he was never the same since hurting his shoulder in late 2004. of course if i had a choice i would take schmidt but like i said he was never the same for the past 2 seasons. IMO he is not a staff ace anymore. he's just like barry zito status, just a solid 2nd starter. they both have a potential of being the staff ace. only time will tell how will pan out.

also didn't i say they signed him for WAY TOO MUCH and for WAY TOO LONG? i'm not too optimistic because this contract will hold the giants for a very long time. i called up my friend to tell him the giants signed zito but when i told him for how long he was pretty pissed off. but hey the good thing is the giants actually went out for a big FA and thats totally different from the giants of the past.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

i hate keith law. of course he says the yankees and red sox had the best offseason. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

i don't understand this. on espn they are saying that voters will not vote in mcgwire, but yet they will vote in bonds. bonds has admitted to being on steroids, mcgwire has not, nor has he been caught with them. i don't get it. did mcgwire have to hit 700 homeruns for them to forget about this?