**The MLB Thread**

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

They didn't sign Renteria. He has a team option for next year. Cabrera was an excellent trade and sign. A 25 year old who has put up hall of fame numbers and compares to Albert Pujols is an excellent move in my book. The Tigers lost Bonderman for the year, Sheffield has been injured the whole year, Zumaya and Rodney were gone the whole year, now Magglio is injured so don't give me your crap on injuries. When I talked about the Tigers injuries last year, you just brushed me off. Who cares if they win 99 games or 89 games, as long as they get into the playoffs.

Your so full of your self, it really isn't wort it anymore.

 

[Pimpedout97]

Your so full of your self, it really isn't wort it anymore.

Well you can analyze Cabrera's numbers all you want. Anyway you cut it, he's put up hall of fame numbers so far. In fact baseball-reference has him compared to these 10 hitters:

Similar Batters through Age 24

Compare Stats

1. Hank Aaron (955) *

2. Ken Griffey (929)

3. Frank Robinson (917) *

4. Orlando Cepeda (917) *

5. Hal Trosky (906)

6. Al Kaline (899) *

7. Joe Medwick (899) *

8. Mickey Mantle (898) *

9. Vada Pinson (885)

10. Vladimir Guerrero (884)

Note 6 of them are hall of famers, and Griffey will be as soon as he is done.

 

[Pimpedout97]

oh i agree ... cabrera is a prime talent .. he just needs to be in shape ...
if he dropped 20 pounds hed be back to hitting 325 40 130 100 runs .... hard to get the bat head around when he have a gut to swing over

His weight never effected his hitting before. Ruth was big, Ortiz and Prince Fielder are big. I was more worried about his weight effecting his defense but he has settled in nicely at 1B, and Guillen has looked good at 3B.

 

[Pimpedout97]

Most Similar by Age

Click on C to compare their stats

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21. Hank Aaron (957) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C

22. Hank Aaron (957) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C

23. Hank Aaron (963) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C

24. Hank Aaron (955) * 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 C

Yea, I think locking a Hank Aaron type hitter up for 8 years is an embarrassment //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[Pimpedout97]

Well balls this sucks

Tigers right fielder Magglio Ordonez was placed on the 15-day disabled list prior to Sunday's game with a pulled right oblique, and outfielder Matt Joyce was recalled from Toledo.The spasms Ordonez, the 2007 American League batting champion, experienced during Saturday's game in his right oblique and latissimus dorsi caused him discomfort during the night.

"I don't want to take a chance," Ordonez said. "You know when it is not going to be OK, and it is going to be a miracle if you feel better."

He said watching teammates Gary Sheffield and Brandon Inge deal with oblique injuries that placed them on the disabled list influenced his decision.

"Sheff told me, 'You've got to take care of it.' "

Ordonez said the injury occured when chasing a foul ball hit in the first inning.

The Tigers also announced that infielder Ramon Santiago (shoulder) will begin a rehabilitation assignment Monday with Toledo.

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

When did I say anything bad about Cabrera nutjob?

He is a good player, but comparing him to good ole Hank is a little ridiculouis.

All I was stating it is an embarrassment being .500 right now with all those good players.

Learn to comprehend, which is amazing you have been here so long, yet can't seem to do something so simple.

 

[Pimpedout97]

When did I say anything bad about Cabrera nutjob?
He is a good player, but comparing him to good ole Hank is a little ridiculouis.

All I was stating it is an embarrassment being .500 right now with all those good players.

Learn to comprehend, which is amazing you have been here so long, yet can't seem to do something so simple.

I'm not the one comparing him to Hank Aaron.

Similarity Scores
Similarity scores are not my concept. Bill James introduced them nearly 15 years ago, and I lifted his methodology from his book The Politics of Glory (p. 86-106). To compare one player to another, start at 1000 points and then you subtract points based on the statistical differences of each player.

Batters

* One point for each difference of 20 games played.

* One point for each difference of 75 at bats.

* One point for each difference of 10 runs scored.

* One point for each difference of 15 hits.

* One point for each difference of 5 doubles.

* One point for each difference of 4 triples.

* One point for each difference of 2 home runs.

* One point for each difference of 10 RBI.

* One point for each difference of 25 walks.

* One point for each difference of 150 strikeouts.

* One point for each difference of 20 stolen bases.

* One point for each difference of .001 in batting average.

* One point for each difference of .002 in slugging percentage.

To this there is a positional adjustment. Each position has a value, and you subtract the difference between the two players position. James just uses primary position, but I computed an average position for players who had more than one primary position. (See Ernie Banks)

* 240 - Catcher

* 168 - Shortstop

* 132 - Second Base

* 84 - Third Base

* 48 - Outfield (James distinguishes, but I don't have that data incorporated at the moment)

* 12 - First Base

* 0 - DH

Using this methodology, Cabrera has compared most favorably to Hank Aaron every year since he was 21, and he was extremely close to Aaron in every year. Almost identical.

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Well see when his career is over with, till then HA pwns Cabrera.

What is funny, we wouldn't hear shit about Cabrera till he got on the Tigers. Go figure.

 

[Pimpedout97]

Well see when his career is over with, till then HA pwns Cabrera.
What is funny, we wouldn't hear shit about Cabrera till he got on the Tigers. Go figure.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071109&content_id=2297384&vkey=hotstove2007&fext=.jsp
I would love to see Cabrera as a Tiger. If he were to sign an extension, he'd be worth parting with Maybin for.

Always been a fan of Cabrera, never been a fan of the Marlins.

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Always been a fan of Cabrera, never been a fan of the Marlins.

Your a dumbass, so you picked up a link about Cabrera open to the Market, who was one of the biggest players on the market and you said you would love to see him as a Tiger.................fawking DUH!

 

[Idealrealist 10+ year member]

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[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Sowers sucks! I hate him, please get rid of him................NOW!

 

[Idealrealist 10+ year member]

I hope this doesn't get deleted again //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

The Rangers actually had solid pitching today //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/woot.gif.aaa6090e619a97b6090d16dd863c5a69.gif

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

I hope this doesn't get deleted again //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif
The Rangers actually had solid pitching today //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/woot.gif.aaa6090e619a97b6090d16dd863c5a69.gif

Never know...........never know. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

Rangers are actually having a solid year so far.

 

[Pimpedout97]

Magglio and Cabrera are out and still beat the red hot Twins. Cleveland couldn't even beat Chicago to help out Detroit.