the grill company is finally coming together......

[AVSTANG02]

Yikez. thats scary he's offering a group buy.

 

[Moe Lester 10+ year member]

Its kinda strange how every time he is publicly confronted he disappears from that thread...

 

[VOA_NIGHTMARE 10+ year member]

This thread should just be deleted period, for him being a bad seller more than one time he should not be allowed to arange and handle the money of fellow members for a group buy, not to mention those look like audiobahn covers and theres no real images of any.

 

[AVSTANG02]

Found him on another forum..

So a year ago he started a thread asking people for opinions on his grill designs and it got closed:

http://www.icixsound.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6627

then he starts another thread introducing himself mentioning the grills again.

http://www.icixsound.com/vb/showthread.php?t=6660

This one actually gives a link to his grill company website

http://caraudioforum.com/vbb3/showthread.php?t=206052

http://www.1doublej.com

has those grill pictures on them.. is his name Jason? All he has on the site is 3d renderings... That guy Jason was on another forum asking about ideas for getting startup cash for his company Double J Products...

it looks like he doesnt run that website or own that domain...His real name seems to Be Zach Wagner and he is from Sprinfield, OH...

*** THIS THREAD HE FIRST COMES IN CONTACT WITH THE ORIGINATOR OF THAT SITE AND THE GRILLS!!!!***

http://www.carstereo.com/forum/showthread.cfm?tid=9152

I was wanting to know if anyone had any ideas how to market my custom sub grilles to larger companies. I'm in the process of having them manufactured and would like a big order to lower the cost for a better resale. If anyone has any ideas please let me know. Thanks

Im interested in custom grills for a pair of RE Hc 12"s. Do you have just one design, or what? Also, do you have the ability to make custom endcaps as well? If you could do those two items, you should have a decent amount of demand pretty quick. Give a link to some pics, or post some more info, let word of mouth do your advertising.

Right now I just have one design that Iam working on getting manufactured. I do have about a dozen other designs but I choose one that was "in the middle of the road" so to speak to start out with. I'm in the process of designing a custom way to attach the grill to the enclosure or the speaker it self. They will be made of stainless steal so it should have a good shine to it. I will set a place(link) to display them so you can have a look. Email me and I will send a pic. jayjennccc@msn.com

That internic whois for that site 1doublej.com goes back to jayjenccc@msn.com e-mail adress...

He hasnt posted about his speaker grill idea for almost year but zach and this dude jason could be working on it together...

Gotta love Google.

 

[dbornotdb 10+ year member]

I just emails Jason at Double J to find out about his grills and his relationship with Zach. To see if he knew that Zach was lifting his pics and passing them as his own product.

 

Or to see if Zach is one of his reps for the company. And if he is, it's his business, but a bad choice.

 

 

 

IF I get an email back, I will post its contents.

 

[AVSTANG02]

Cool.. nobody seems to give a shit about it today.. all that research for nothing

 

[eisenhower 10+ year member]

Cool.. nobody seems to give a shit about it today.. all that research for nothing

I care, but Im guessing people are simply trying to ignore this thread and the con who made it.

 

[AVSTANG02]

It's really funny the trail people leave behind on the net when they use the same e-mails and usernames for everything.

 

[Raven 10+ year member]

Well, at least he's not hiding.

 

[dbornotdb 10+ year member]

Well, at least he's not hiding.

But he sure isn't coming back to own up to his actions either.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And the email I got back from Jason at Double J went something like this........

He is not the founder of Double J Products that would be me. Last year I had made a few post to get some consumer information on many audio forums and he was one that was verry intrested. He assisted me on some things and suggested I donate some grills for an auction one of the forums was having. I said I would think about it and said I would like to do that. But I didn't say when as I didn't have the products at that time. Well its been done and I have three winners without grills (which I will make good on because it is my name). That is how Zach is involved with us.

I would like to know how he is ripping off people and as much info on him as possible. I was hoping he would be a sales rep but if his business conduct is lest than desirable, then I will have to re-think that decision. I have also given him permition to use my images to promote my products but if he is using the in an illegal way I will have to deal with that.

 

[ss3079 5,000+ posts]

Every thread this guy creates will be shit on.

Scammers are the scum of the Earth. When you owe money, you owe money ... and you pay up.

Zero tolerance for scammers.

 

[DIPayton 10+ year member]

this all seems very fishy... even if it is legit, I can't see many intellegent buyers coming from here. Especially now, where scamming seems to be the thing to do. People need to be smart.

 

[InhumanAcura 5,000+ posts]

Every thread this guy creates will be shit on.
Scammers are the scum of the Earth. When you owe money, you owe money ... and you pay up.

Zero tolerance for scammers.

*stands up and claps*

 

[walkychalky 10+ year member]

But he sure isn't coming back to own up to his actions either. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And the email I got back from Jason at Double J went something like this........

He is not the founder of Double J Products that would be me. Last year I had made a few post to get some consumer information on many audio forums and he was one that was verry intrested. He assisted me on some things and suggested I donate some grills for an auction one of the forums was having. I said I would think about it and said I would like to do that. But I didn't say when as I didn't have the products at that time. Well its been done and I have three winners without grills (which I will make good on because it is my name). That is how Zach is involved with us.

I would like to know how he is ripping off people and as much info on him as possible. I was hoping he would be a sales rep but if his business conduct is lest than desirable, then I will have to re-think that decision. I have also given him permition to use my images to promote my products but if he is using the in an illegal way I will have to deal with that.

ask dude when the grills will be ready to ship?....i wanna purchase the first set maybe

n tell him zach is a douche bag

 

[AVSTANG02]

In the real world zach could sue you for that email

maybe u should send another email to smooth things over a bit..