The Great 12" Challenge... lowdown

[addisdar 10+ year member]

Question? Why are some subs being ran at a different amount of power (lower) than what the RMS is on them?

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Man,

The purpose of the test wasn't to say "You need to buy sub x and here is why", we have a review section for that. I donated a sub to see what it can actually do in comparison to other subs. I didn't and won't complain that the box was too big/small, fiberglass resin or whatever....it would be impractical to build 10 or 20 boxes for each sub to optimize to both car and sub enviornment, and that wasn't the point of the test.

The test was trying to give out general information about power handling, SPL, etc. Key word being general.

I am not going to run out and buy any sub because of the test, but it did validate some of my preconcieved notions about particular sub's performance.

Well, that is my interpretation of the point of the challenge anyway.

 

[Railrocker 10+ year member]

Nice graph. A few surprises in the challenge as well. Good job dOOds!

 

[bigbassman Premium Member]

Question? Why are some subs being ran at a different amount of power (lower) than what the RMS is on them?

which ones in particular?

Loyd L.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Question? Why are some subs being ran at a different amount of power (lower) than what the RMS is on them?

Different subs = different power handling abilities. I would be pissed if the put 750/2k on my sub and blew it. Mine (the pioneer SPL 2000) was overrated.

 

[bigbassman Premium Member]

for the most part... each woofer received RMS, or close to it power levels..

unless it was obvious to us it wouldn't hold it..

Loyd L.

 

[addisdar 10+ year member]

The one I was talking about was the OZ ME. Almost every test it was given 500 watts except for one where it was given 1600+. That one is actually rated for 700 watts. Not complaining. Just wondering the reason behind it.

Diameter 12"

Impedance Dual 2 & 4 ohm

Power (RMS/Peak) 700/1400 watts

Sensitivity (1W/1M) 86 dB

Frequency Response 20 - 500 Hz

Xmax (mm) 25

Fs (Hz) (2 ohm/4 ohm) 33 / 34

Mounting Depth 7 1/8"

Mounting Diameter 11 1/8"

Voice Coil Diameter 2"

 

[ramos 5,000+ posts]

Different subs = different power handling abilities. I would be pissed if the put 750/2k on my sub and blew it. Mine (the pioneer SPL 2000) was overrated.

Yeah it was over rated a little , but that spl didn't sound to bad . Kind of surprising for an spl oriented sub //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[bigbassman Premium Member]

The one I was talking about was the OZ ME. Almost every test it was given 500 watts except for one where it was given 1600+. That one is actually rated for 700 watts. Not complaining. Just wondering the reason behind it.

well the SPL burp test is a totally different test procedure... woofers will burp with several times over the RMS rating...

in the case of the ME.. I did not test it at RMS rating.. because its big brother completely blew apart with its RMS rating... and I didn't trust it...

500 watts got it to a good working level...

Loyd L.

 

[addisdar 10+ year member]

well the SPL burp test is a totally different test procedure... woofers will burp with several times over the RMS rating...
in the case of the ME.. I did not test it at RMS rating.. because its big brother completely blew apart with its RMS rating... and I didn't trust it...

500 watts got it to a good working level...

Loyd L.

I have always thought the ME was a better build quality than the Power. I run about 1000 to each of mine daily and about 830 to my wifes. The Power and ME are actually made by 2 different companies. Can't remember who makes the Power, but the ME is made by ID. Whomever makes the Power for OZ needs to redesign it. But of course, what does OZ know about SPL, they are more of a SQ oriented company and this is the first time they have ventured into a SPL sub.

 

[OneKrazyKeebler 10+ year member]

Awsome job. I know I learned something.

 

[ThomasG 5,000+ posts]

I thought it was pretty good. It's a shame the JBL GTi wasn't in there, I'd love to see where it ended up ranking.

x2

 

[nickk678 10+ year member]

This is really, really good. You guys put it together very well. Only dissapointment I, for myself that is, was the Rl-p getting shitty SQ reviews. Yes, I know it's subjective.

 

[PSturmer 10+ year member]

why is it some of the subs off the original list were not tested, i wanted to see the type R

 

[BlackMaxima 10+ year member]

im happy to see the FIQ 12 got a good review. for a $250 sub it did real good compared with subs that are $450, $500 or more. I like the FIQ more and more now. Its a great sub with a good price.

I just have one Q, how come there was no IDMAX in the test?

Ported SPL: FIQ did better than a MAG and it almost half the price lol, that was funny.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif

LOL i realy like the FIQ now

BTW, great job on the review.