thanks to a member of ca told me about a new sub

if you look at that sub and look at the juggernaut and the soundstream T4 its the same design
Um...Just cause the basket may be the same doesnt mean that the motor and soft parts are. The basket has little to do with the sub, aslong as it is strong enough and deep enough for the suspension.

The Mag motor is custom tooled, and one of. The soft parts allow ~24mm xmax and 3" p2p total (which is still rather clean for that much travel)

You cant base a sub on the looks of the basket or cone.

 
if you look at that sub and look at the juggernaut and the soundstream T4 its the same design
moron. lots of companies use the same baskets... you can really tell when you look at online stores that have som,e 30+ brands.

 
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