Terminator: Salvation

[Farmacist 10+ year member]

what's crazy is, both your points are valid, so it's hard to make sense of it.
i went and saw t4 last night, while it was good, i saw alot of flaws and things that confused me. don't read on if you haven't seen it.........

why is reese younger than john? i get the whole time travel thing happened later on after this movie takes place but i don't see how this happened like it did.

when they break into skynet, they only have two terminators on duty to give them trouble? come on now...there should been alot more action for this part of the movie.

a "fight scene" with john and the terminator? really? in part 1 or 2 he would of snapped john's neck in a instance--game over for him. he would not of thrown him around like a rag doll for 10 minutes.

didn't it say in the movie reese is their number one target, while connor is number two? well when they got ahold of reese, why didn't they just kill him? even though john went to save him, how would he know if he is already dead or not?

a movie like this, there's just too many unanswered questions and plot holes. i hope the sequel explains things more.

reese is younger than john because john sends him into the past at a later time, then reese knocks up sarah...

conner is known as the "prophetical" leader of the resistance, in the movie he isn't the true leader when the movie takes place.

They didnt kill reese at first because it was a trap for John, to lure him in.

 

[subzero 5,000+ posts]

reese is younger than john because john sends him into the past at a later time, then reese knocks up sarah...

conner is known as the "prophetical" leader of the resistance, in the movie he isn't the true leader when the movie takes place.

They didnt kill reese at first because it was a trap for John, to lure him in.

From what I saw, Connor became the true leader when he told the resistance to not attack cyberdine so he could save the prisoners. The only reason they was collecting prisoners was to find Kyle and trap him and kil both. Connor became a legend the moment he ordered not to attack. Then rescue and injury and resurrection after are what solidified his Leadership stature.

I liked the movie, I have a feeling they could make so many more of these movies, a new TV show, different stories cuz that was just one battle, not the War

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Its been a while since ive seen the movies but i think you can use the message from t3 to solve this: the technology simply would have come about either way. Despite his claim, the tech developer had no way of knowing what would have happened without the T1 technology. I think the point, from the view of the terminator series, is that the future is pretty much predetermined, and even with time machines we cant change the course of events. (wasnt that the ending theme of T3?)


I think this depends on the movie. I just watched a sci fi space movie called sunrise that had alot of outerspace CGI but i liked the animation so much i got the blu ray edition of the movie. Imo the movies that spend 50+million just on the CGI are quite convincing. In fact id be willing to bet that most people see CGI in movies frequently and dont even realize it because of how good it is.

I cant comment on the technology portrayed in salvation since i haven't seen it, but it seems that sufficient artificial intelligence would make just about anything possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_change

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_Singularity

If the movies claim the future is pre-determined, then we would have to assume the very same technology that developed into the terminator tech is subsequently being developed outside the T2 and T3 scope of events, as that parallel tech developement would have had to have been occurring anyway in the very first time loop (to create the very first terminator). This would then imply that tech developement, plus the NEW one formed by finding the terminator sent back in time, would create two seperate tech developement paths that lead to the same point... terminators and sentiment machines in general. Except in T2 we learned that it was the United State's computer based self defense network that became 'self aware' in a certain year and started the chain of events that lead to terminator technology. If a terminator was then sent back in time, giving the US govt a faster approach to developing that tech, the timeline would be greatly affected. Yet the timeline does not change when the first terminator is sent back.
Think of it this way. In all time travel movies they discuss not altering the past so it doesnt change the future. If the future is predetermined, this means you could travel back in time and get your mother pregnant, and it still not affect you being born. That is, in effect, what the termintor series claims. The first terminator came back in time and got his mother pregnant sooner, but somehow his life's timeline was not altered in the least. That is a major flaw in the story line.

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

This move had so many holes in the plot.

 

[bigaudiofanati2 10+ year member]

It was a great movie a must see again.

 

[subzero 5,000+ posts]

I liked it too. I would go see it again.