Terminator: Salvation

[JL Audio 5,000+ posts]

Just got back from the midnight showing.
It was farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr better than I expected it to be.

10 times better than t3

IS ARNOLD IN IT ??? GET TO DA CHOPPA! RUNNN!

 

[subzero 5,000+ posts]

I admit it, I watched T3 just for Claire Danes //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

At lest you know she's not gonna get fat.

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

Just seen it. Thought it was pretty good. Didn't see Linda Hamilton tho...I musta missed it. I saw the governator...couldn't miss it.

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Looks promising, but not holding my breath. Will rent it......

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

They didn't screw the storyline. When the first terminator came back, it changed the timeline. People would have figured out this technology, just not as quickly as they did whne they had the first terminator's CPU to reverse engineer. Just like after the 2nd movie they changed the timeline and made judgement day happen later than it was supposed to.

Yes, they did screw up the story line. You say when the first terminator came back, it changed the timeline. How exactly? The same events Reese, from the first movie's future laid out, still occur within the same time period. And the same man, John Connor, fits events exactly to still be the leader of the revolution. Obviously the time line did NOT change.
Again, the reverse tech engineer from the first movie made it quite clear the knowledge gained from the first terminator 'sent them in directions they had never thought of'. Yet another clue that the reverse engineered technology would have sped up the timeline the first movie had already laid out for us.

I feel like a total nerd arguing this stuff. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[rippinitup7 10+ year member]

Yes, they did screw up the story line. You say when the first terminator came back, it changed the timeline. How exactly? The same events Reese, from the first movie's future laid out, still occur within the same time period. And the same man, John Connor, fits events exactly to still be the leader of the revolution. Obviously the time line did NOT change.
Again, the reverse tech engineer from the first movie made it quite clear the knowledge gained from the first terminator 'sent them in directions they had never thought of'. Yet another clue that the reverse engineered technology would have sped up the timeline the first movie had already laid out for us.

I feel like a total nerd arguing this stuff. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

what's crazy is, both your points are valid, so it's hard to make sense of it.

i went and saw t4 last night, while it was good, i saw alot of flaws and things that confused me. don't read on if you haven't seen it.........

why is reese younger than john? i get the whole time travel thing happened later on after this movie takes place but i don't see how this happened like it did.

when they break into skynet, they only have two terminators on duty to give them trouble? come on now...there should been alot more action for this part of the movie.

a "fight scene" with john and the terminator? really? in part 1 or 2 he would of snapped john's neck in a instance--game over for him. he would not of thrown him around like a rag doll for 10 minutes.

didn't it say in the movie reese is their number one target, while connor is number two? well when they got ahold of reese, why didn't they just kill him? even though john went to save him, how would he know if he is already dead or not?

a movie like this, there's just too many unanswered questions and plot holes. i hope the sequel explains things more.

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

I feel like a total nerd arguing this stuff. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

I bet you're at home rolling these

 

[dumple 5,000+ posts]

pretty BA not gunna lie

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

don't read on if you haven't seen it..........

Thankyou for being careful with spoiler info. I have not seen it yet.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I bet you're at home rolling these

Im going to have my Warlock put a curse on you.

 

[BASS_WARRIOR 10+ year member]

Im going to have my Warlock put a curse on you.

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[perfecxionX 10+ year member]

What irks me about T2 and later is they fucked up the story line. In T2 they tell us humans didn't develope the terminator technology until they got their hands on the remains of the first terminator from T1. The tech developer in T2 even said "that technology sent us in directions we had NEVER thought of before". Well if that's the case... how the hell did the first one ever get invented in the same time frame, so it could be sent back in time to be defeated and reverse engineered by humans?

Its been a while since ive seen the movies but i think you can use the message from t3 to solve this: the technology simply would have come about either way. Despite his claim, the tech developer had no way of knowing what would have happened without the T1 technology. I think the point, from the view of the terminator series, is that the future is pretty much predetermined, and even with time machines we cant change the course of events. (wasnt that the ending theme of T3?)

Salvation looks bad ***. Two main cncerns. Lately all the movies with tons of special effects in them end up just looking like cartoons to me. When you see a spaceship scene and you know its just an animation drawn on a computer, it takes on more the feel of a video game than a movie. I actually prefer stop-animation and animation using models than I do a computer graphics intensive movie. *shrug*

I think this depends on the movie. I just watched a sci fi space movie called sunrise that had alot of outerspace CGI but i liked the animation so much i got the blu ray edition of the movie. Imo the movies that spend 50+million just on the CGI are quite convincing. In fact id be willing to bet that most people see CGI in movies frequently and dont even realize it because of how good it is.

Second concern is the time frame of Salvation. 2018? really? Come on, that's just way too soon for such a technological and societal change as we'd expect from such a paradigm shift in human developement. But then, Hollywood has always done that. Go back and look at movies from the 60's and 70's and they told us by the futuristic year 2000 we'd all be under government control, flying around in our spaceships and shooting laser ray guns at alien robots on Mars. Hollywood always tries to set these types of movies in the 'not so distant' future to try and make the story more easy to relate to (oooo that could happen in my lifetime) and the logisitics tend to get ignored. Im anal on that kinda stuff, to me the details can make or break a movie. With that said, the terminator series have still been a shining example of top-notch sci-fi movies from our generation.

I cant comment on the technology portrayed in salvation since i haven't seen it, but it seems that sufficient artificial intelligence would make just about anything possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_change

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_Singularity

 

[Farmacist 10+ year member]

IS ARNOLD IN IT ??? GET TO DA CHOPPA! RUNNN!

actually yes he was in it... for a short time

 

[JL Audio 5,000+ posts]

actually yes he was in it... for a short time

GOOD. you've been terminated.