SSA Icon or Fi Q

[daicacharco 10+ year member]

which one would you guys perfer to get louder but still sound clean ?

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[jacka 10+ year member]

either would probably be fine, but it hasnt been out that long so just wait.. or buy both yourself.

 

[Prowler573 5,000+ posts]

which one would you guys perfer to get louder but still sound clean ?

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either would probably be fine, but it hasnt been out that long so just wait.. or buy both yourself.

I was thinking much the same.

There are a whole two people (or is it three?) that participate on this forum that have squat's worth of experience with the Icon. How do you think anyone other than that limited group would even remotely know??

 

[tapout 5,000+ posts]

get the Icon and give a review.

 

[daicacharco 10+ year member]

just ordered the icon, and will order the Fi Q soon. only problem is. i have 2 alpine mrp m850 amps to push each sub but its only 800rms

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

use 1 per coil sucka

 

[daicacharco 10+ year member]

how do i do that?

 

[appleyard 10+ year member]

One coil (+ve and -ve) hook up to one amp and the other coil hook up to another coil.

But you need to scope on the gains to match both amp.

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

You don't need an o-scope, merely a DMM to match the gains.

 

[soundsolutions Pro Seller]

Your sub has been shipped! Enjoy

 

[dvrmstrng 5,000+ posts]

dont put 800 watts per coil on a Q...i dont know how well it would like 1600 watts...

 

[iagrdshaka 5,000+ posts]

Didnt think dealers could advertise in their sigs..

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

TL Numbers from Kent.
SSA ICON with 1100rms.

Enclosure: 2.0ft^3 ported box with a 4” port tuned to 34hz.

TL Score: 132 db at 40hz.

Great 12" Challenge.

FI Q with 1000rms.

Enclosure: 2.2 cubic feet.

TL Score: 135 at 40 hz.

Driver Notes:

* Build quality is excellent

* Woofer has alot of output potential below 40hz ported

* Woofer will be ok with muscial content over RMS rating(under 1800 watts).

So the Q was roughly 3 db's louder, with 100rms less power. And the box was within .2 cubic feet of the box kent used. I know this doesn't take into account the vehicle, but 3 db's is a big difference. It would take 2 ICON's to reach the same output as a single Q.

And like I said, my Q sounded amazing. The Q sounded amazing, and is louder than your ICON.

Well once again, it is all in the install. That ICON was brand new, was the Q brand new or broken in?

 

So for example, I pulled an entire sub stage out of my explorer, me and a few friends installed it in my wifes old civic. I went from a 139 to a 144. SAME SUB, SAME AMP, only difference was the head unit. The h/u in the civic is an old Sony with has much less signal output then the Eclipse in the explorer.

 

That is a 5db difference with a weaker head unit. So like I said, have you seen a test of a Q and an ICON in the same install?

 

People need to get off this db numbers being everything. It is not, especially for a sub woofer that is not meant to be an SPL sub in the first place.

 

[NEXT 10+ year member]

All I am saying. Is all things being equal, the Q seems to be a better performer for the same price. There is a possibility the Icon could be just as loud as the Q, but I would be willing to bet the Q does have more output. And since the Q has great SQ, I just thought it would be a better choice.
But I guess if I was selling the ICON I would say it is better too lol.

All things were not equal, being a different size box, and obviously different amps since the power was different, and more than likely a different source unit and vehicle.

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

One review with TL numbers in one install. So apparently that is exactly how it will do on the TL in everyone else's car or truck?

 

Both are very good subs and both have very strong points. There is no better sub, there is only a better sub for a particular install based on a long list of factors.