Sq in substage vs frontstage

[shadowfactory 10+ year member]

Pure comp Sq ain't what i was looking for. If so why would i went with an 18inch //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif:

I wasn't aware that the only purpose of tuning is for competition. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

Also the size of the subwoofer should not automatically preclude it from being SQ oriented, the tuning and install make much more of a difference in that regard than the pure size of a woofer.

P.S. went != have gone

 

[Xprime4 10+ year member]

why not use REAL referance material....like the 1812 overture or something with REAL sub-bass....not electronic bass fill in

where to look into?

Anyway what's up with the hate tonight, I was only asking about definition of sq in substage and if sq in subs is overrated

id's comp aren't 1k comps, but they are hella better than alpine type r comp, the higher end gear around here

 

[shadowfactory 10+ year member]

where to look into?

Amazon

iTunes

Bittorrent

Usenet

Record store

Should I keep going?

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

Pure comp Sq ain't what i was looking for. If so why would i went with an 18inch //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gifI was looking for something that sound nice, having heard few subs, i went with the Q without earing it. I love exagerated soundstage, but maybe half the time i'm blending it with the rest of the system.

btw image dynamics comps aren't crap? :

what's wrong with an 18" for SQ??? plenty run dual 12s, dual 15s, 18s for sq...

i don't have sigs on, so I wouldn't know what you have up front...

 

[shadowfactory 10+ year member]

i don't have sigs on, so I wouldn't what you have up front...

Lil Wayne : "Like I said, I’m a selfish-*** ni-ga. I feel like everything I do is successful and productive. It’s gonna be hard to tell me I’m slipping. It’s hard to sit and tell a ni-ga ‘Stop.’ ‘F-ck, how can we tell this ni-ga to stop when every fu-king thing he do is successful?"

I guess his comps are made of Lil wayne. His avatar IS Lil wayne orgasming after all.

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

whoops, i guess i skimmed through that part of the first post... oh wells.

he still could've went w/ some higher line ID comps like the XS line.

 

[Xprime4 10+ year member]

what's wrong with an 18" for SQ??? plenty run dual 12s, dual 15s, 18s for sq...
i don't have sigs on, so I wouldn't know what you have up front...

people should add their adress, alarm model and spare keys location too //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

people should had their adress, alarm model and spare keys location too //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

according to many sigs, many people run only an HU, amps, subs, and the big3...

no fronts.

 

[Xprime4 10+ year member]

what's wrong with an 18" for SQ??? plenty run dual 12s, dual 15s, 18s for sq...
i don't have sigs on, so I wouldn't know what you have up front...

Nothing's wrong... the Wowing 18 thread was enough to start this over again

The conclusion was that a gain knob was the best friend of an sql system.

 

[shaneb 10+ year member]

So now Image Dynamics boxed component speakers, particularly the ctx65cs model are SQ because they are the ca.com forum boner pick of the month? Also, a Hifonics Brutus amp for use on a so called SQ sub setup. Everyone, let's all gather for a ride on the fail boat express:

I would argue that IDCTX65cs are "SQ" equipment. Or else I shouldn't be running those mids with my cd1e mini-bodies.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

But I would also argue that with all wal-mart equipment, proper tuning, and a good install, you can win a few comps.

I wasn't aware that the only purpose of tuning is for competition. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif
Also the size of the subwoofer should not automatically preclude it from being SQ oriented, the tuning and install make much more of a difference in that regard than the pure size of a woofer.

P.S. went != have gone

Why is the IDW15 such a desirable sub still.

people should had their adress, alarm model and spare keys location too //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

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OP, look, you need to find some new test music. If you are in it for "SQ," I hope you are actually tuning in some form or fashion.

The idea of a "SQ" oriented sub-woofer, is to get a flat response across the spectrum. You want to feel 45hz just as strong as 18hz. That's also the reason people go Trunk Baffle or Infinite Baffle. Because it delivers a much flatter response curve.

If you are running those CTX mids (assuming you have around 200wrms on each), and you still get drawn to the rear from your subs.

You need to fix your crossovers, and turn your subs down.

I have CTX mids with only 150wrms on them right now, and you would never know I have two 12's in my trunk. You would say the kick drum is on my dashboard. That Bass Guitar, is right where it should be (well getting there).

The difference between a Q or IDQ and say, a kicker comp is...The Q and IDQ's are designed so that they will deliver a flat response, well a flatter. The Kickers, one note wonders. They're made to pound that one note that all rap songs over play.

 

[Xprime4 10+ year member]

I would argue that IDCTX65cs are "SQ" equipment. Or else I shouldn't be running those mids with my cd1e mini-bodies.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gifBut I would also argue that with all wal-mart equipment, proper tuning, and a good install, you can win a few comps.

Why is the IDW15 such a desirable sub still.

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OP, look, you need to find some new test music. If you are in it for "SQ," I hope you are actually tuning in some form or fashion.

The idea of a "SQ" oriented sub-woofer, is to get a flat response across the spectrum. You want to feel 45hz just as strong as 18hz. That's also the reason people go Trunk Baffle or Infinite Baffle. Because it delivers a much flatter response curve.

If you are running those CTX mids (assuming you have around 200wrms on each), and you still get drawn to the rear from your subs.

You need to fix your crossovers, and turn your subs down.

I have CTX mids with only 150wrms on them right now, and you would never know I have two 12's in my trunk. You would say the kick drum is on my dashboard. That Bass Guitar, is right where it should be (well getting there).

The difference between a Q or IDQ and say, a kicker comp is...The Q and IDQ's are designed so that they will deliver a flat response, well a flatter. The Kickers, one note wonders. They're made to pound that one note that all rap songs over play.

that's why i got the impression that a spl sub strenght is mainly in the 40-80hz area while a "sq" sub are always tuned lower and got a lower extension. I just wanted comments on this, while keeping it a safe place //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[gunz4me 10+ year member]

I would argue that IDCTX65cs are "SQ" equipment. Or else I shouldn't be running those mids with my cd1e mini-bodies.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gifBut I would also argue that with all wal-mart equipment, proper tuning, and a good install, you can win a few comps.

Yeah, that kind of got lost in my lack of words. The point I was trying to get at was the mere purchase of the CTX65cs doesn't make them SQ components if the attention to detail is lost in the install!

Years ago one of my cousins was running a set of $800 MB Quartz component speakers and the half-*** install negated the effectiveness of his high end components. The speakers were "professionally" installed on baffles that were attached to the door card and not even completely sealed.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif In his case, I believe a properly installed set of Wal*Mart speakers would have sounded better

ETA: I still stand by my assertion that Hifonics Brutus and SQ don't belong together in the same sentence. Crap, I just put them together in the same sentence... dammit:verymad:

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

gain knob? sql?

bad conclusion.

 

[Xprime4 10+ year member]

gain knob? sql?


bad conclusion.

yeah a simply finger move and you have booth sq and sql in the same setup //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif that's what i meant

 

[atsaubrey 10+ year member]

I am not going to read all the posts and discussions in this thread but will make a comment.

When I first got serious in SQ I was once told by a IASCA world champion that the sub stage is the LAST thing to worry about. I was also informed that once the front stage is dialed in a Bazooka tube for sub duty would be suffcient to take home world champion trophies. I still today believe that. Think about it.