alright sweet i think youve helped me finally make up my mind, haha you wouldnt believe how much ive been stressing over finding what i want. i used to have a pretty nice setup with 2 memphis 12's in a ported box running roughly 800rms but i just want louder. i think ive found what i was looking for. thanks for the help and when i get everything hooked up and funning ill be sure to let you know how it all turned out