Seriously, no disrespect intended, but...

Do you, as designers, note a difference between help and design? I have designed all of my boxes based on guessing and experimentation. (Such ideas include having the aeroports exactly behind the sub, resin concoction) [all of which turned out to be poor ideas btw] but do you feel there is a difference between designing a box and reply for help for simple things like box tuning, port placement, etc. I have provided financial advice to sum that pros charge quite commission for. I don't expect payment for help. I feel I exhange this help for the questions I have.
On the other hand, if someone wanted me to do a full portfolio analysis considering age, income, education, assesing risk tolerances, etc, etc. I would expect to be paid.

In short, my comment here is that people like me don't expect to have to pay for help, I contribute what I can to the forum and you contribute what you can to the forum. But if I asked you to make a box specific to my application, with drawings and details and such. I would then expect to have to pay.
Help and designing are QUITE different. People PM and IM me asking me to check over designs they might have done, asking how to figure out their box tuning, asking about response graphs, figuring out zobels and lots of other shit. If I can do anything to help someone out using just my mind, then that's payment enough for me. If they want me to actually make something up out of nothi ng for them, then that's different and would be considered designing.

 
no pm's??? obviously some of you are not as good at designing as everyone thinks you are, don't care to take another one on, don't think my money is good enough, or you just don't want to give away any secrets... thats ok... ill figure this crap out sooner or later, it will just take time and money which i seem to have alot of.... well the time anyways LOL

 
Help and designing are QUITE different. People PM and IM me asking me to check over designs they might have done, asking how to figure out their box tuning, asking about response graphs, figuring out zobels and lots of other shit. If I can do anything to help someone out using just my mind, then that's payment enough for me. If they want me to actually make something up out of nothi ng for them, then that's different and would be considered designing.

How do you feel about checking over a design as I ask that more than once as I get 'ideas' and such

 
no pm's??? obviously some of you are not as good at designing as everyone thinks you are, don't care to take another one on, don't think my money is good enough, or you just don't want to give away any secrets... thats ok... ill figure this crap out sooner or later, it will just take time and money which i seem to have alot of.... well the time anyways LOL
people don't pm you to do work for you. plenty of people in here said they are designers and are happy to design, PM THEM

 
"My wife cheated what should I do ?"Should of screwd her up 4th order style.

80
lmao:crazy: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/hilarious.gif.02a037aad04aa96f19982b298a3d70a8.gif

80 is a good guy

he designed a 4th order for my setup and i was burping low 150's in my 4dr acura integra, i have 2 jl 12w7's with 1 matts d3000.1 amp and 2 stinger 1700 batts in the trunk and 1 stinger 800 under the hood

 
Why is it that everyone these days wants something great for nothing? I've had 6 people today who were referred from past design customers asking for box designs, and as soon as I told them 10 dollars or 6 dollars or whatever the cost may be for them, they immediately got upset and said that they didn't expect to pay for the designs. If you want free designs, Brad was gracious enough to make them available at the top of this forum. However, if you want someone to spend hours of their time fine tuning and tweaking something specifically tailored to your needs, it is less than reasonable to expect that work to be complimentary. Many of you know I strongly supported Moe's posting of the designs as it would eliminate just what I'm talking about now. If you want a design, theres pages of them in a sticky at the top of this forum. If you want custom work, you should be prepared to pay for it, and I personally believe that 8-12 dollars isn't much especailly considering it can take hours to perfect a design. If any of you fellow builders or designers agree with me, that's cool, if not, that's also fine, but I'm just tired of having my time wasted by people who don't realize that it does take some time and effort to meet their specific needs.
-Dave
**I didnt read the whole thread**

But honestly, what a joke!!!

And know, im not talking about you Dave. People wanting stuff for free. Kinda like people emailing me for fiberglass work and want it for material costs only because, "they go to a lot of shows and its good advertisement." Yea, and I'm hung like a horse.

 
How do you feel about checking over a design as I ask that more than once as I get 'ideas' and such
I don't mind checking over one's work, as that doesn't require any significant effort, and is good to see what ideas other people have so that you yourself can get smarter and gain more experience //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
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