Roethlisberger = Garbage

[TurdFergueson2 5,000+ posts]

I agree

I mean like he had Davenport who was good when he was playing at Green Bay as his featured back. His mechanics lead me to believe he would be great in a run and shoot type offense. Pittsburgh wants him to be a pocket passer a la Manning and Brady. And his WRs are not really YAC type receivers. They are more catch and fall.....lol. I love Ward, but he has never shook the shit out of a safety for a touchdown. He will knock the shit out of one though.

 

[TurdFergueson2 5,000+ posts]

this just goes to show you that you should have let Tommy Maddox be the starter.

Funniest shit I heard all day. Maddox lost the game to the Jags in the Super Bowl run year.

 

[Slammed 5,000+ posts]

I mean like he had Davenport who was good when he was playing at Green Bay as his featured back. His mechanics lead me to believe he would be great in a run and shoot type offense. Pittsburgh wants him to be a pocket passer a la Manning and Brady. And his WRs are not really YAC type receivers. They are more catch and fall.....lol. I love Ward, but he has never shook the shit out of a safety for a touchdown. He will knock the shit out of one though.

lol catch & fall

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

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pittsburgh lollers

 

[Rmsanger 10+ year member]

he's really not that bad IMO... probably a top 15 QB... Better than Vince Young, Phillip Rivers, and Tom Jones (Wash?) amongst the other playoff starters.

 

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

he's really not that bad IMO... probably a top 15 QB... Better than Vince Young, Phillip Rivers, and Tom Jones (Wash?) amongst the other playoff starters.

You mean Jason Campbell?

Vince Young is garbage. Marques Colston should have won rookie of the year last year.

 

[staypuff 10+ year member]

It's a team game. Roethlesberger is good, not incredible, but good. He perhaps is in a bad system now, From it appears like the steelers are no longer a super-run-heavy offense and have opened up to the pass much more.
Don't forget he is only been in the league for a few years.

The jaguars are a good team. Thats why they will beat the patriots.

you need to give up what you're smoking dood..... no one has even come close to beating the Pats this year except on weeks that they've gotten bored with having their way with teams...... now that it's the playoffs they'll be playing even harder..... good luck with the jags prediction...... BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.....

 

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

you need to give up what you're smoking dood..... no one has even come close to beating the Pats this year except on weeks that they've gotten bored with having their way with teams...... now that it's the playoffs they'll be playing even harder..... good luck with the jags prediction...... BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.....

If any AFC team can be the Patriots it is the Jags. Don't get me wrong, the Chargers...are overrated and one dimensional, and the Colts...well lets just say that if the Patriots lose to the Colts during the midst of one of the greatest Seasons in NFL History, at home, during the playoffs, with everyone healthy (minus colvin and the other IR's of course) Belechick would most likely kill himself along with the entire Patriots team.

But the one team that can beat them is the Jags. If the weather gets nasty in Foxborough (i'm guessing the game is on sunday) which it might, as the forcast for Sunday/Monday calls for very cold temperatures and snow showers (at least on the one i'm looking at) The patriots won't be able to throw. I mean, it's just not gonna happen.

So then it comes down to who can run better. And please, if you say the Pats, you are joking yourself. Maurice Jones-Drew and Fred Taylor are both exceptional backs, who in tandem, can provide a fresh set of legs for every down. Not to mention David Garrard can run a bit too (as evidenced by the season-saving 32 yard run he pulled off in the 4th quarter)

Not to mention the Jags are a physical team- there defence can get up in the face of brady and stop the run.

So if it comes down to a running game- which it has a good possibility of doing, the Jags have the advantage.

Don't get me wrong, Tom Brady is having a great season, and Randy Moss, Wes Welker, etc, etc are good WR's, but as evidenced with the Jets game (i'm sure they would have loved to score more the 20) A unstoppable passing attack just isn't going to happen in shitty weather.

So lets see if they can rely on Maroney against a good defence.

I might add:

The Jags Losses:

2 against Indy, one very close

1 close one against Tennessee (who might I add made the playoffs)

1 against a solid texans that meant nothing

1 against the Saints....wtf? i guess the saints were rolling.

I'm not saying it's gonna be a blowout, more like the game they just played against Pittsburgh

but when push comes to shove, are you gonna take a Major Pass Attack or a Major Rushing attack when it is nasty, snowing, raining and windy and freezing?

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

I think it is funny because I told you numerous times Big Ben Worthliesberger sucked!

Granted he did good with what he had this year. O-line needs revamped in a bad way. 47 sacks is unacceptable with any QB.

Your team lost because they got beat by a better team, period!

I think you are a fairweather fan as well.

Browns didn't make the playoffs, but I didn't say Anderson sucked or blame other players.

Least he made the pro bowl, lol!

 

[staypuff 10+ year member]

If any AFC team can be the Patriots it is the Jags. Don't get me wrong, the Chargers...are overrated and one dimensional, and the Colts...well lets just say that if the Patriots lose to the Colts during the midst of one of the greatest Seasons in NFL History, at home, during the playoffs, with everyone healthy (minus colvin and the other IR's of course) Belechick would most likely kill himself along with the entire Patriots team.
But the one team that can beat them is the Jags. If the weather gets nasty in Foxborough (i'm guessing the game is on sunday) which it might, as the forcast for Sunday/Monday calls for very cold temperatures and snow showers (at least on the one i'm looking at) The patriots won't be able to throw. I mean, it's just not gonna happen.

So then it comes down to who can run better. And please, if you say the Pats, you are joking yourself. Maurice Jones-Drew and Fred Taylor are both exceptional backs, who in tandem, can provide a fresh set of legs for every down. Not to mention David Garrard can run a bit too (as evidenced by the season-saving 32 yard run he pulled off in the 4th quarter)

Not to mention the Jags are a physical team- there defence can get up in the face of brady and stop the run.

So if it comes down to a running game- which it has a good possibility of doing, the Jags have the advantage.

Don't get me wrong, Tom Brady is having a great season, and Randy Moss, Wes Welker, etc, etc are good WR's, but as evidenced with the Jets game (i'm sure they would have loved to score more the 20) A unstoppable passing attack just isn't going to happen in shitty weather.

So lets see if they can rely on Maroney against a good defence.

I might add:

The Jags Losses:

2 against Indy, one very close

1 close one against Tennessee (who might I add made the playoffs)

1 against a solid texans that meant nothing

1 against the Saints....wtf? i guess the saints were rolling.

I'm not saying it's gonna be a blowout, more like the game they just played against Pittsburgh

but when push comes to shove, are you gonna take a Major Pass Attack or a Major Rushing attack when it is nasty, snowing, raining and windy and freezing?

not arguing any of your points.... but no one can say what the Pats can do with any real challenges as they've had none this year..... i'm betting on heart..... Brady came into the season with an attitude and i'm betting that and the team's confidence will take them a step further..... many teams that were supposed to lose because of weather have surprised many..... Chicago and Pittsburgh are two teams that are usually ones that do well in crappy weather and both have lost big games in those conditions...... one reason why i love the nfl is anyone can win on any given game....

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

If any AFC team can be the Patriots it is the Jags. Don't get me wrong, the Chargers...are overrated and one dimensional, and the Colts...well lets just say that if the Patriots lose to the Colts during the midst of one of the greatest Seasons in NFL History, at home, during the playoffs, with everyone healthy (minus colvin and the other IR's of course) Belechick would most likely kill himself along with the entire Patriots team.
But the one team that can beat them is the Jags. If the weather gets nasty in Foxborough (i'm guessing the game is on sunday) which it might, as the forcast for Sunday/Monday calls for very cold temperatures and snow showers (at least on the one i'm looking at) The patriots won't be able to throw. I mean, it's just not gonna happen.

So then it comes down to who can run better. And please, if you say the Pats, you are joking yourself. Maurice Jones-Drew and Fred Taylor are both exceptional backs, who in tandem, can provide a fresh set of legs for every down. Not to mention David Garrard can run a bit too (as evidenced by the season-saving 32 yard run he pulled off in the 4th quarter)

Not to mention the Jags are a physical team- there defence can get up in the face of brady and stop the run.

So if it comes down to a running game- which it has a good possibility of doing, the Jags have the advantage.

Don't get me wrong, Tom Brady is having a great season, and Randy Moss, Wes Welker, etc, etc are good WR's, but as evidenced with the Jets game (i'm sure they would have loved to score more the 20) A unstoppable passing attack just isn't going to happen in shitty weather.

So lets see if they can rely on Maroney against a good defence.

I might add:

The Jags Losses:

2 against Indy, one very close

1 close one against Tennessee (who might I add made the playoffs)

1 against a solid texans that meant nothing

1 against the Saints....wtf? i guess the saints were rolling.

I'm not saying it's gonna be a blowout, more like the game they just played against Pittsburgh

but when push comes to shove, are you gonna take a Major Pass Attack or a Major Rushing attack when it is nasty, snowing, raining and windy and freezing?

Jesus you sound like Audiolifes alter ego. Why do you people say they can't throw in cold weather? It's god dam New England for christ sakes. Tom Brady has proved many times over he can throw in cold games, but because of the Jets game, he can't? That is udder BS! He had a bad game, shit happens. He has the talent in Moss, Welker, Watson, Faulk and others. Just because it gets cold don't mean he won't throw the ball. He had a huge game in Buffalo not but 2 or 3 years ago where it was cold and snowing and he played amazing.

As far as running, your wrong again, granted Fred Taylor and Jones-Drew are probably the best 1-2 punch in the game, but the Pats can run and Maroney has been getting better the last couple of games. Then you have a good 3rd down back in Faulk. Morris is good too, but IIRC he is still hurt. If Maroney would have played all 16 games, he would have been a 1000 yard rusher and isn't like the guy can't get in the end zone. He averaged 4.5 yards a game, almost the same as Drew and 18 carry difference.

Not saying the Pats will out run them, which I doubt they would, but to say they can't run or pass is retarded! #1 in passing, #13 in rushing.

I still think it will be a good game and you are right, if any team could beat them, I think it is the Jags. Their defense will be the main key, but with Brady and company, they will have to play better than ever.

 

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

Jesus you sound like Audiolifes alter ego. Why do you people say they can't throw in cold weather? It's god dam New England for christ sakes. Tom Brady has proved many times over he can throw in cold games, but because of the Jets game, he can't? That is udder BS! He had a bad game, shit happens. He has the talent in Moss, Welker, Watson, Faulk and others. Just because it gets cold don't mean he won't throw the ball. He had a huge game in Buffalo not but 2 or 3 years ago where it was cold and snowing and he played amazing.
As far as running, your wrong again, granted Fred Taylor and Jones-Drew are probably the best 1-2 punch in the game, but the Pats can run and Maroney has been getting better the last couple of games. Then you have a good 3rd down back in Faulk. Morris is good too, but IIRC he is still hurt. If Maroney would have played all 16 games, he would have been a 1000 yard rusher and isn't like the guy can't get in the end zone. He averaged 4.5 yards a game, almost the same as Drew and 18 carry difference.

Not saying the Pats will out run them, which I doubt they would, but to say they can't run or pass is retarded! #1 in passing, #13 in rushing.

I still think it will be a good game and you are right, if any team could beat them, I think it is the Jags. Their defense will be the main key, but with Brady and company, they will have to play better than ever.

eh, But I don't think Maroney compares to all three of them running. Hes a great back yes, on a great team yes, but 2 running backs will always be fresher then one in the 4th quarter. Kevin Faulk...eh he's ok. I think he benefits from a great team to say the least.

BTW- 2 or three years ago doesn't count. Sure brady can throw, but can moss catch? I'm not entirely sure he can since he's played in a dome (minnesota) and sunny oakland his whole career..wait. No he didn't play in Oakland he didn't feel like it.

But still, Wes Welker, Donte Stallworth, and Randy Moss have not proven to me they can catch in the snow.

My last and final argument is this.

If Baltimore can hustle them (5-11, btw) then anyone can hustle them.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

but when push comes to shove, are you gonna take a Major Pass Attack or a Major Rushing attack when it is nasty, snowing, raining and windy and freezing?

Just ask Oakland what happened to them a couple of years ago, before anyone knew that Brady & Co. could win Super Bowls //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Thieroff 10+ year member]

I think it is funny because I told you numerous times Big Ben Worthliesberger sucked!
Granted he did good with what he had this year. O-line needs revamped in a bad way. 47 sacks is unacceptable with any QB.

Your team lost because they got beat by a better team, period!

I think you are a fairweather fan as well.

Browns didn't make the playoffs, but I didn't say Anderson sucked or blame other players.

Least he made the pro bowl, lol!

Let me ask you a question.

What is your criteria for Mr Worthlessberger *******?

3 of 4 years with a passer rating of 98, or more?

He completes 63 percent of his passes over his career?

Like I said in my first post, look at this guy, he doesn't have an offensive line.

He had evaded quite a few would be sacks, shrugging guys off.

Look at his receiver corps, does he have any real threats at WR?

Who brought them back in the game against the Jags this week, was it Davenport's running, or Carey Davis?

Where was our offensive line at?

Who else in the league is on his level, really speaking, sure he's not the best, but in the NFL he's in the the top 10, probably the top 5.

Did Ben throw the ball a couple times when he shouldn't have, or to some terrible spots, yeah.

Did the Jags play a better game than them, they did if they won. The Steelers did bring it back though, and gave the Jags a game, for sure.

Can you disagree with when Ben is on he's money?

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CT

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

eh, But I don't think Maroney compares to all three of them running. Hes a great back yes, on a great team yes, but 2 running backs will always be fresher then one in the 4th quarter. Kevin Faulk...eh he's ok. I think he benefits from a great team to say the least.

BTW- 2 or three years ago doesn't count. Sure brady can throw, but can moss catch? I'm not entirely sure he can since he's played in a dome (minnesota) and sunny oakland his whole career..wait. No he didn't play in Oakland he didn't feel like it.

But still, Wes Welker, Donte Stallworth, and Randy Moss have not proven to me they can catch in the snow.

My last and final argument is this.

If Baltimore can hustle them (5-11, btw) then anyone can hustle them.

Least you have common sense unlike audio *** and Iceteebag.

I agree on Moss not playing in the snow, didn't even think of that, so good call, same with Welker, so you have made a more valid point than those other tards, however, this isn't the Moss of old, he is more mature and hungry and remember he did well in the Giants and Pittsburgh game in the cold. But, we shall see how they do, but I don't think they will give up on the pass because of the cold weather. Now if a Blizzard is coming down, then yes, I see them running more.

Remember Jags play in warm weather quite often, so they are not used to the cold either. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif