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Should be in the US in the next week or two I believe if the date from Crutchfield is any indication.
Have you been an Alpine fan your whole life?? Personally I doubt the 9887 would stack up at all to the other decks you listed. It may be the latest offering from Alpine but it is what it is. It's $400 head unit with internal processing. Comparing that to the Alpine F1, the Clarion 9255 or comparing it to the processing power of the 701 is just silly. I'm a Pioneer guy and I know for a fact it wouldn't touch the P9 combo. I know these other units are much more expensive but you get what you pay for.I tell ya the reeeeal shootout will be how the 9887 SQ stacks up against the 9255 or F1 or H701.
No biggie. I'm the same way about Pioneer. I'm not a bandwagon guy though. I've owned quite a few Pioneer decks in my day including a few cassette decks. I've owned Eclipse and Alpine and even a Denon and always came back to Pioneer.Yes, I'm sure the likes of the F1 or P9 or 9255 should rightly beat the crap out of the 9887.. I wouldn't expect it to be very close.. I'm just wondering if it gets closer for the cash than the others in it's pricepoint?.. Does it "approach" the big leagues? or is it still just the same mid-league burr-brown head unit? I should have stated it less Alpine-Fanboy-ish. sorry. I totally agree with you.. You get what you pay for.. Separate power supply or separate processing on higher quality dacs, op amps, etc.. I wouldn't expect a $400 head unit to be very close.. It'd just be interesting.
Whether it is closer than the 880 or 7100 would totally depend on the rest of the install. With all things being equal we would have to wait and see.No I promise I wouldn't expect it to be able to actually hang with those, but all the hype around it, it should be closer than it's only other pricepoint competitors.. the 880 and 7100.
I guess this is what pisses me off the most. I hear so much about problems with this unit and the 860. I have an 860 and my buddy does too. He is a Premier installer for a local shoppe and they haven't had a single 880 or 860 be returned for service. That makes me wonder what the hell is going on.Also, I'm as much for a Pioneer head unit.. I would have popped in a DEH-P880PRS and been done with it, but scared of it's "whining" bug, for lack of another term.
Agreed. Negative press will always speak more volume than positive. It's a shame that 2 great decks had their reps spoiled due to some problems with probably 1 to 2 % of them in circulation.I wonder what the ratio is for the 880/860 problems, how many sold to how many have problems. i have had 2- 860s and an 880 and I never had one problem with them. I think they got a bad rep by the 10 or so people you hear about online that had problems.