Really Obama? Another $410 billion?

[TurdFergueson2 5,000+ posts]

Seeing that our national debt went a good jump up, the value of the dollar is going down even farther, and wall street is showing it thinks Obama and Pelosi are off their rockers, I think this is shaping up to be a very expensive failure. Obama has proved there is no change, just that he was the best lier and we are under politics as usual, just that we are paying much more for it. Very few of the projects in either bill went towards projects that would actually recoup or pay back this massive skyrocketing debt. Once these pet projects are done, bridges and roads are built, from what I have seen and read, we will be back where we are currently and very little will have gone towards paying off the debt (let alone the interest on the debt just added). The only way to overcome this mountain is raise taxes tremendously. Either way, my son, and his kids will be paying for this "different approach" for decades.

Your bold type scares me.............

He's been in office like 1 month and 20 days. He may need a little longer to really take a stab at things you think?

 

[fasfocus00 5,000+ posts]

So we should save every company that is failing? The real problem is no one will accept responsibility for there actions. Home owners buy too much house or cant read a contract and want someone to "fix" it for them and auto companies have bad management and union strangle holds on them. Having a "jerry's kids" telethon for failing companies is retarded. Let them fail.

no, maybe you guys don't get it. the OP is one of those extreme conservatives. to him it doesn't matter what Obama does, it'll be wrong to him. I believe that all these failing companies should do just that and fail. the main reason why this is lasting so long is b/c all this "stimulus" money is making the bottom harder to get to. it's like a skipping rock on water. if all these companies would just be allowed to fail. we would be at the bottom. after that ppl need to **** it up get new skills and learn something new to get a job.

 

[sexiewasd 10+ year member]

come on guys gather round.. we will all hold hands on the way down.. instead of letting the weakest links go we will all go down.. cool

QFT

It's human nature to meddle, We prevent evolution so that we can attempt to have control over complex systems. We do it in nature by supporting the weak, and now that we have created an economy and society based on evolution we try to do the same exact thing. This time the negative effects are showing themselves much faster than with nature due to the speed of evolution in the world economy where one evolutionary step my take only a year or two in some markets.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

bullshit if I've ever heard it, seasonal ag work, maybe. Nowadays with unemployment like it is people without jobs will probably be jumping into that just to put food on the table.
There is no job Americans won't do, there are just jobs employers won't pay Americans to do because they can swindle some illegals for slave wages

I've seen maybe one white guy in the last 5 years come to a job site that I'm on and try looking for a job. The problem is that white people are lazy for the most part. They'd rather make minimum wage while working at McDonald's than make $10 an hour while doing actual work outside. Hell, you can get a job just picking up trash on a job site for $8 an hour.

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

I've seen maybe one white guy in the last 5 years come to a job site that I'm on and try looking for a job. The problem is that white people are lazy for the most part. They'd rather make minimum wage while working at McDonald's than make $10 an hour while doing actual work outside. Hell, you can get a job just picking up trash on a job site for $8 an hour.

racist

 

[smalltown 10+ year member]

He said he was gonna stop earmarks during his campaign yet he glady signs this bill with 8,000 earmarks in it.
Now they said on the radio Pelosi wants another stimulus package.

You don't like Obama, this we all know, but the real question I want to ask you why, is the democratic party he represents, the policies he believes in , or is the fact the he is a little darker than his Caucasian mother?

 

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

Seeing that our national debt went a good jump up, the value of the dollar is going down even farther, and wall street is showing it thinks Obama and Pelosi are off their rockers, I think this is shaping up to be a very expensive failure. Obama has proved there is no change, just that he was the best liar and we are under politics as usual, just that we are paying much more for it. Very few of the projects in either bill went towards projects that would actually recoup or pay back this massive skyrocketing debt. Once these pet projects are done, bridges and roads are built, from what I have seen and read, we will be back where we are currently and very little will have gone towards paying off the debt (let alone the interest on the debt just added). The only way to overcome this mountain is raise taxes tremendously. Either way, my son, and his kids will be paying for this "different approach" for decades.

AMEN!

 

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

Really mattf? Another Obama thread?

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

B.o.h.i.c.a.

rome much?

 

[Louisiana_CRX 5,000+ posts]

I want my Obama check //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/greedy.gif.5a53e6246569d7ab79867170f3b06629.gif

 

[pioneerpimp 5,000+ posts]

mattf he become quite the little poster lately..hes getting excited.

taxes go up. o well, theyre gonna go up anyways. forever and ever. life isnt going to get anymore cheap.

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

I want my Obama check //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/greedy.gif.5a53e6246569d7ab79867170f3b06629.gif

Hopefully this means two obama checks...that'd be awesome!

 

[RE_XXX]

And I know of a lot of lazy *** people on this forum...i like to call them parasites to society (you know who you are) that live off my hard earned money!!!

Obama promises them health care and more money and blah blah...... well.... when the american worker quits working... and EVERYONE is on unemployment to reek the benefits... We will be owned by another country...

Laugh and enjoy it while you can... unemployment will run dry shortly... and unlike a lot of you.. I have a LOT..A LOT of equity //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif..

So I will be sitting just fine while you parasites to society starve to death.....and to me that is quite funny......

The Law Of Nature-

The Weak Shall Perish In Their Own Blood

 

[pioneerpimp 5,000+ posts]

wow youre quite cool now. good job for you. now go die. no one cares and **** off.

 

[oldschoolboomer 10+ year member]

Why are you typing in bold...

to the one who said why should we have let obama let the companies fail... You need to have punsihment for failure.. plain and simple this is just negative reinforcement.. Oh you failed... its ok heres some money.. The companys need to fire off all the union workers and get people in there that aren't going to whine and ***** and get shit done... all the car companys need to do this.. There are plenty of people out there looking to work for w/e and not worry about this or that..

What happens if you went bankrupt before this.. you fail.. you learn and move on..

exactly!!