Really Obama? Another $410 billion?

[Louisiana_CRX 5,000+ posts]

What money? There is only debt.

I know about debt //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

I know about debt //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

haha so I've heard

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Obama would have impressed me if he stayed with what he said he would do during his campaign..if he would have vetoed the bill and then gone over it line by line with a scalpel and fixed it my whole image of him would have literally changed for the good. Ear marks are only part of the problem and an 8% increase in regular spending was not needed here with all the other garbage going on. Stimulus 2 is being talked about which I would not support until they get a grasp of wtf is going on now.

 

[AudioJunkie73 10+ year member]

It may be a different story if the US government had the money to spend. But they just keep charging from their Bank of China credit card. pretty soon we will have to decare bankruptcy and become part of china.

 

[bunkerking09 10+ year member]

It may be a different story if the US government had the money to spend. But they just keep charging from their Bank of China credit card. pretty soon we will have to decare bankruptcy and become part of china.

theres a winnar!@!

 

[funkyab 10+ year member]

Wrong, Being "entitled" to something is just an illusion. I am not owed nothing by nobody that I haven't earned myself. And neither is nobody else. The problems with health care is already the governments fault. It won't get any better by them going the socialist route and taking it over completely.

NO.. you are way out of line here. Being "entitled" to something like a car, a job, welfare money, etc... is one thing. Health care is something all together different. It is a human right. Granted many countries can not afford to offer this right to its inhabitants but many more countries (even those surviving on shoestring budgets) manage to provide health care free of charge or for very little money for those that need it. The US is the ONLY developed country in the world that does not provide this fundamental resource, and at this same time happens to be the richest (not per capita) but in general.

I agree with you that people should earn what they get but we are talking about health care and fundamental livelihoods.

There are MILLIONS of people in this country that bust their A$$ES off working 2 and 3 jobs trying to "earn their lives for them selves". And many of these families, some having children with both parents working 2 jobs JUST TO PAY HEALTH CARE PREMIUMS. Before you make some generalized remark that you just did about "earning" health care, think about it a bit more. Fuk it... shut down EVERY federal and state program that hands out money to people that dont deserve it or are taking advantage of the system (if it can be proven). But respect the ideology that health care should be a right regardless of your relative wealth, relative work ethic, religious beliefes or even giant douchbaggery. It is health care. And considering that americans in general (including all that work their ases off) are the most unhealthy population in the developed world... we should be even more agressive in making sure universal health care is provided.

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

NO.. you are way out of line here.

Oh noes....in your opinion he is "way out of line here"

What is the point of healthcare....to increase quality and length of life. If we are going to argue quality and length of life as a right then maybe we should get rid of stressful jobs. They can cause people to lose quality and length of life, some jobs physically wear people down. If we have a right for equal quality and length of life no job should ever require more of somebody's mind or body than any other job...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[IgnoreMe 5,000+ posts]

i remember a certain candidate that was ALL about cutting spending. but nobody voted for him, besides a few people including me.

i cant remember what his name was though...

 

[RE_XXX]

Well, looks like we got ourselves an r-tard alright.
Indeed. You're retarded.

nG

Yup..... coming from someone who cant say a word about any of this..... cause the knowledge level isnt there...

And im the retard?

 

[mattf 5,000+ posts]

NO.. you are way out of line here. Being "entitled" to something like a car, a job, welfare money, etc... is one thing. Health care is something all together different. It is a human right. Granted many countries can not afford to offer this right to its inhabitants but many more countries (even those surviving on shoestring budgets) manage to provide health care free of charge or for very little money for those that need it. The US is the ONLY developed country in the world that does not provide this fundamental resource, and at this same time happens to be the richest (not per capita) but in general.
I agree with you that people should earn what they get but we are talking about health care and fundamental livelihoods.

There are MILLIONS of people in this country that bust their A$$ES off working 2 and 3 jobs trying to "earn their lives for them selves". And many of these families, some having children with both parents working 2 jobs JUST TO PAY HEALTH CARE PREMIUMS. Before you make some generalized remark that you just did about "earning" health care, think about it a bit more. Fuk it... shut down EVERY federal and state program that hands out money to people that dont deserve it or are taking advantage of the system (if it can be proven). But respect the ideology that health care should be a right regardless of your relative wealth, relative work ethic, religious beliefes or even giant douchbaggery. It is health care. And considering that americans in general (including all that work their ases off) are the most unhealthy population in the developed world... we should be even more agressive in making sure universal health care is provided.

So can I send you my next doctor bill? Since other people don't have to pay for their bills, why should I have to pay for mine? If someone has to work three jobs to pay for their kids health care...tough. That's what happens when you have kids. If you don't want to work three jobs to pay for health care, don't have kids.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

I want to wait 7 months for the government to tell me I can't have an MRI that I should have had 7 months ago....

 

[Crimson Boom 10+ year member]

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[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Yup..... coming from someone who cant say a word about any of this..... cause the knowledge level isnt there...
And im the retard?

I could say a few things, I understand what's going on... my few economics courses at the University of Cincinnati did me pretty well, but do I feel qualified to comment on what is the best/correct thing to do... no.

nDeed.

nG

 

[scarolinablazin 10+ year member]

They take the jobs that most americans wont do.

who was doing them before then you stupid ***

 

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

I could say a few things, I understand what's going on... my few economics courses at the University of Cincinnati did me pretty well, but do I feel qualified to comment on what is the best/correct thing to do... no.
nDeed.

nG

I Do! If my major is National Politics does that qualify me yet!?