Pot head Willie

[-01limited- 10+ year member]

those are effects of smoking anything yes. But thc itself. yeah I dont see me getting wild one night on it and not waking up the next morning:fyi:

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Studies show that after smoking a joint the human hear rate increases 20-100% .....making you 4.8 times more likely to suffer from a heart attack. So wrong, it can kill you over night................................



According to CAMH, marijuana smoke, or weed as it is often referred to be some people, contains more tar and some cancer-causing chemicals than cigarette smoke.

Id like proof of the 100% heart rate increase claim.

As for the tar and chemicals in it, if it was legalized it too could contain a filter, just like cigarettes. So until that point, comparing pot smoke to cig smoke is simply stacking the deck to make pot appear worse. A can tell you this, the tobacco industry puts a lot of chemicals into their product to 'enhance flavor', improve shelf life, etc... none of these things are done to marijuana. Not to mention, a smoker of both products will typically smoke vastly larger quantities of tobacco than marijuana. There's also vaporization and edibles available for marijuana. When's the last time you ate a tobacco laced brownie or sucked on a Marlboro out of a vaporizer? The chemical and cancer arguments are pretty silly.

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

There is no proof. Just wild claims. 6,000 years of recorded history of cannabis use and not one documented death or injury. Not one in 6,000 years.

 

[Magnus 10+ year member]

No injuries from cannabis? I DOUBT that. "Cigarettes" or nicotine DO come in vaporizers, it's called an E-Cig.

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

No injuries from cannabis? I DOUBT that. "Cigarettes" or nicotine DO come in vaporizers, it's called an E-Cig.

Got proof? No. Unless you count getting shot by DEA or cartels.

 

[-01limited- 10+ year member]

Its true. There is not one death that can be linked solely on smoking marijuana. Like I said earlier, no one has ever died from complications of thc. Not one time has a heart attack been caused just by smoking a joint. And audioholic is right, the chemicals and cigarettes are way more harmful than anything you're gonna find in natural mary jane. Sorry but big tobacco companies do not want pot legalized because you could pretty much say bye bye to most of your cigs.

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

There is no 100% proof that smoking weed causes cancer, there's been plenty of studies, but nothing has been conclusive. People say that any kind of smoke can cause cancer, but some studies have said that the THC actually attacks any cancerous cells that form, and further can actually reduce your risk for both lung and brain cancer. So you can throw out medical implications all you want but just know that there's studies out there that say differently.

 

[budahbuddy803 10+ year member]

Its true. There is not one death that can be linked solely on smoking marijuana. Like I said earlier, no one has ever died from complications of thc. Not one time has a heart attack been caused just by smoking a joint. And audioholic is right, the chemicals and cigarettes are way more harmful than anything you're gonna find in natural mary jane. Sorry but big tobacco companies do not want pot legalized because you could pretty much say bye bye to most of your cigs.

Why do you say that? Most tobacco smokers I know choose to smoke a cig after smoking pot.... The chemicals in pot attach to the bronchi in your lungs causing them to expand so therefore after you get high and open up those bronchi, the "buzz" from a cig is increased due to accepting larger amounts of chemicals in ciggs... I dont know if bronchi is the right term.

 

[-01limited- 10+ year member]

Why do you say that? Most tobacco smokers I know choose to smoke a cig after smoking pot.... The chemicals in pot attach to the bronchi in your lungs causing them to expand so therefore after you get high and open up those bronchi, the "buzz" from a cig is increased due to accepting larger amounts of chemicals in ciggs... I dont know if bronchi is the right term.

But for those people that maybe have enough for one pack. What do you think they'd choose? I know I'd choose a pack of mary jane over some cigs any day of the week. I could just see a pretty nice decrease over the people who smoke cigs. I'd say a lot would switch over to just smoking pot because of some of the carcinogens that are put into cigs. Bottom line is pot is more healthy for the body than cigs are any day of the week.

 

[budahbuddy803 10+ year member]

But for those people that maybe have enough for one pack. What do you think they'd choose? I know I'd choose a pack of mary jane over some cigs any day of the week. I could just see a pretty nice decrease over the people who smoke cigs. I'd say a lot would switch over to just smoking pot because of some of the carcinogens that are put into cigs. Bottom line is pot is more healthy for the body than cigs are any day of the week.

I agree with that. I agree that pot should be legal. I agree that if vaporized or eaten there are little to no harmful effects. I agree that the government is strictly out for money. The government has not truly helped a single person that I know of, only hurt them. You get in trouble for possessing marijuana and not only are there plent of fees to be paid but you lose your license.... Hey rather than smoking pot occasionally and being a contribution to society we are going to take all your money and take away any possibilities for you to get anywhere to make money or help others out........ I do not understand the laws against marijuana and I REALLY REALLY hope it will be legal before I die.

 

[-01limited- 10+ year member]

well spoken

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

Smoke up Johnny!

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

There is no 100% proof that smoking weed causes cancer, there's been plenty of studies, but nothing has been conclusive. People say that any kind of smoke can cause cancer, but some studies have said that the THC actually attacks any cancerous cells that form, and further can actually reduce your risk for both lung and brain cancer. So you can throw out medical implications all you want but just know that there's studies out there that say differently.

Do you have a link to those studies or is that just rumors you heard from the DEA? Tobacco is toxic. Cannabis is non-toxic. Tobacco can be used as pest control for your garden because it is poisonous.

DEA has made a habit of purposely misquoting studies that do not show what they claim. Like the famous one about causing impotency and brain damage. The doctors who actually did those studies sued the DEA to get them to stop misquoting their research.

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

Marijuana Said to Trigger Heart Attacks

Uh, huh. That's "proof" of "cancer"?

Mittleman admits he can’t explain exactly how pot could trigger a heart attack.

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

explain how in indian countries, where maijuana is smoked daily, why the # of deaths from chronic heart failure over 600% higher than in america

You're asking me to disprove a negative? What are indian "contries"? You mean India, the country? I don't know where you got that figure from. Just like all the wacky prohibition BS, I'm going to assume that is a made up and unprovable figure as well.

30 seconds of google answerd your irrelevent question:

In addition, South Asians tend to gain weight in the abdominal region (Waist: hip ratio >1.0 in men, >0.9 in women) and are at greater risk of heart disease. Environmental factor like low birth weight, malnutrition also possibly predisposes Indians to increased risk of diabetes and heart attacks in adulthood.

Statistics suggest that South Asians seem more naturally vulnerable to heart disease than other ethnic groups. Lancet 2000 study showed that, even after adjusting for all known risk factors; South Asians in Canada appeared to have a higher rate of heart disease than Europeans or Chinese living there. Some doctors think that this vulnerability can be explained by the "thrifty-gene" theory, which holds that South Asians adapted over many generations to the region's frequent famines. Now with a very recent overabundance of food, their bodies are having difficulty making a metabolic U-turn and the result is high insulin intolerance, with accompanying raised levels of diabetes and obesity.

The 10 leading selected risk factors for death and disability, by type of country as given by WHO:

High-mortality developing countries Low-mortality Developed countries Developed countries

1 Underweight Alcohol consumption Tobacco consumption

2 Unsafe ****** practices High blood pressure High blood pressure

3 Unsafe water, poor sanitation Tobacco consumption Alcohol consumption

and poor hygiene

4 Indoor smoke from solid fuels Underweight High cholesterol level

5 Zinc deficiency Overweight Overweight

6 Iron deficiency High cholesterol level Low fruit and vegetable intake

7 Vitamin A deficiency Low fruit and vegetable intake Physical inactivity

8 High blood pressure Indoor smoke from solid fuels Illicit drug use

9 Tobacco consumption Iron deficiency Unsafe ****** practices

10 High cholesterol level Unsafe water, poor sanitation and poor hygiene Iron deficiency

Cardiovascular disease in India and the impact of lifestyle and food habits - Criticare - Express Healthcare Management