i have 2 of these with about 1k each rms in a ported box gota say they have an amazingly hard hit for only 1k rms each i like the new spiderless design with a dubble surround the voice coil sits nice and stiff in its place untill the power goes through then it keep a nice tight sound through the whole sound spectrum i have used a larger jbl amp on them (my friends) that pushes about 3k i think rms with them in the same pored box at 1ohm and it ate up the power they really just whatever you through at them great buy and for the price u cant go wrong u can get one shipped off
ebay for about 150 retail is 350 but havent seen them listed for that much anywhere a lota people talk crap about pioneer sub workmanship but these subs are put together better then a lota higher end subs that go for twice as much including rf subs witch sound great but they need to find a better desigh for the cone i have had 2 sets of 12" subs and the cones split under stress //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rage.gif.0ad8a6e5565b5fddce406566fdd05149.gif
