***Offical 08/09 NBA thread!***

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Can't stand Kobe, hence the reason I don't like the Lakers anymore.

Used to like them back in the day with Worthy, Abdul-Jabar and Magic. That was some time ago though.

 

[chenface 10+ year member]

Yeah, he's the most loved player, and the most hated. And i understand why. Plus, HE"S A ****** AND WE ALL KNOW IT.

I love him as a player though, he may have his slumps here and there. But when he's hot, WOW, its amazing to watch him. Also, he always finds a way to come up with a win. Plus his work ethic; its incredible how much effort he puts into working out and working on his fundamentals.

He's a great player and we all have to admit that.

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

I still think Lebron is better, always have and always will. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[chenface 10+ year member]

Kobe is still best. Lebron will become the best.

Reason only because Lebron hasn't done anything yet. Hasnt won a championship, hasnt been MVP.

Only been in the finals once and got spanked

 

[Slammed 5,000+ posts]

Lebron will be on the Knicks //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[quest51210 10+ year member]

You probably watched the Pistons vs. Lakers game last week, and that game was horrindous. I turned off the tv by the 3rd quarter.

so, you are not a real fan? not a lakers 4 life fan if they are losing, sounds like a bandwagon fan here. if they were so great you would expect them to have a comeback in the last 12 minutes.

Kobe is still best. Lebron will become the best.

Reason only because Lebron hasn't done anything yet. Hasnt won a championship, hasnt been MVP.

Only been in the finals once and got spanked

neither has kobe on his own. shaq moved and picked up a ring, duncan had three different teams surround him to get 4 rings, kobe still cant get that on his own. season mvp! like that matters, did it win novitski a ring? nash a ring? nope, its just another accolade.

 

[brtnboarder3241 5,000+ posts]

go bulls!!!!

 

[JAZN 5,000+ posts]

No, can't say I have, but to be honest, I haven't read up or watched much basketball this year........usually catch the highlights. I did watch a whole Cavs game the other night though, lol!
They will win their divison.......probably, but don't see them winning the big one. Good team, just never seem to be able to win the big games.

I think it was the Cavs vs. Bucks game. The score was 99 - 93 and Lebron was dribbling out the clock to end the game. The fans started boo'ing cuz bron didn't try to put in an extra bucket to win them a free taco bell chalupa for scoring 100. Keep in mind bron already dropped over 40 points in a win.

As for the Lakers, they seem to roll the west with relative ease but there's just something about the "tough" teams in the east. They don't fare very well against teams like Boston, Cleveland, and Detroit. Bynum should help with their toughness down low, since Pau Gasoft has a hard time with other bigger centers.

 

[chenface 10+ year member]

so, you are not a real fan? not a lakers 4 life fan if they are losing, sounds like a bandwagon fan here. if they were so great you would expect them to have a comeback in the last 12 minutes.

They were down at one point by 20 against the Pistons in the 3rd quarter and they were playing horrible. A true Laker fan would not want to ever watch that game again. Die hard Laker fans at Staples Center watching it live left the game early because they were sick of it.

neither has kobe on his own. shaq moved and picked up a ring, duncan had three different teams surround him to get 4 rings, kobe still cant get that on his own. season mvp! like that matters, did it win novitski a ring? nash a ring? nope, its just another accolade.

LOL, a championship ring is a championship ring. And Kobe has 3. Shaq didn't win it on his own either, did he not have both Kobe or Wade on his team?

Did Duncan not have David Robinson on his team during their championship run?

You can also see that Duncan cant' do it on his own (look at this season).

Until Lebron wins one, he can never be called the greatest player to play the game.

Jordan, Bird, Magic, Chamberlain, Shaq, Kareem, and many more are in the argument of being the greatest players because they have all won a championship. But they didnt win it on their own, they had teamates who helped them win a champion.

You dont see Barkley, Stockton, Malone, Ewing, or Wilken's name in the argument because they never won a championship.

And who said Kobe can't get it on his own? Just because he hasn't, doesn't mean he won't. Only time will tell.

 

[quest51210 10+ year member]

well if you have faith they will take it all a small wager is worthwhile.

 

[chenface 10+ year member]

Put your team on the line and i'll put my lakers. Only way the bet goes through is either one of our team wins it all. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Lets make it friendly too, not trying to argue my point 24/7.

 

[rtillaree 10+ year member]

dam, McDyess re-joining Pistons...poor bobcats, waived players and freed up cap to sign him lol...

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

They were down at one point by 20 against the Pistons in the 3rd quarter and they were playing horrible. A true Laker fan would not want to ever watch that game again. Die hard Laker fans at Staples Center watching it live left the game early because they were sick of it.


LOL, a championship ring is a championship ring. And Kobe has 3. Shaq didn't win it on his own either, did he not have both Kobe or Wade on his team?

Did Duncan not have David Robinson on his team during their championship run?

You can also see that Duncan cant' do it on his own (look at this season).

Until Lebron wins one, he can never be called the greatest player to play the game.

Jordan, Bird, Magic, Chamberlain, Shaq, Kareem, and many more are in the argument of being the greatest players because they have all won a championship. But they didnt win it on their own, they had teamates who helped them win a champion.

You dont see Barkley, Stockton, Malone, Ewing, or Wilken's name in the argument because they never won a championship.

And who said Kobe can't get it on his own? Just because he hasn't, doesn't mean he won't. Only time will tell.

This is true, but you have to remember a couple years ago we made the finals just with Bron and yeah we got spanked, but it was basically just him. Kobe always had someone with him when they won it.......shaq......and same can be said about shaq having Wade or Kobe. My point is if James can basically do it himself, then it is only a matter of time and this may be the year with the addition of a decent point guard in Mo Willams, which has worked like a gem thus far. This is are best shot and feel we can put ourselves in a very good position to win it all, but still is early. Only thing hurting us is our bench isn't that good after Verajo and Gibson. Wally used to be good, but looks like shit the last couple years.

Also Bron is younger than Kobe and if you compare the numbers on a shittier team, then there is no comparison that Bron has the better numbers and is only getting better.

Kobe wouldn't have won the MVP last year if Cleveland did more IMO.

Also if we don't win this year, then Cleveland will **** and he will be playing for the knicks. He will deffintley get his partner in crime there.......probably Bosh, then I could see the Knicks becoming the bulls of the 90's. Sucks, but is destined to happen unless Bron does something big this year. So not only Bron or Bust for the knicks, but Bron or Bust for the Cavs as well. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[chenface 10+ year member]

This is true, but you have to remember a couple years ago we made the finals just with Bron and yeah we got spanked, but it was basically just him. Kobe always had someone with him when they won it.......shaq......and same can be said about shaq having Wade or Kobe. My point is if James can basically do it himself, then it is only a matter of time and this may be the year with the addition of a decent point guard in Mo Willams, which has worked like a gem thus far. This is are best shot and feel we can put ourselves in a very good position to win it all, but still is early. Only thing hurting us is our bench isn't that good after Verajo and Gibson. Wally used to be good, but looks like shit the last couple years.
Also Bron is younger than Kobe and if you compare the numbers on a shittier team, then there is no comparison that Bron has the better numbers and is only getting better.

Kobe wouldn't have won the MVP last year if Cleveland did more IMO.

Also if we don't win this year, then Cleveland will **** and he will be playing for the knicks. He will deffintley get his partner in crime there.......probably Bosh, then I could see the Knicks becoming the bulls of the 90's. Sucks, but is destined to happen unless Bron does something big this year. So not only Bron or Bust for the knicks, but Bron or Bust for the Cavs as well. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

Yeah this year is by far the best team the Cavs have had. If Lebron can get the championship this year, you can say he is greater than Kobe. But it will mean nothing until he gets that ring. Sure, its a nice boost to have Shaq on your team, but a ring is a ring. Simple as that. And Kobe has 3. If he gets another championship, you can put him in the same sentence as Jordan if you want. Lebron has the skills to be the greatest player ever but he hasn't done anything yet. But your right, he is still very young, has a lot of minutes left to play. I believe he will end up winning multiple rings but thats in years to come...

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Yeah this year is by far the best team the Cavs have had. If Lebron can get the championship this year, you can say he is greater than Kobe. But it will mean nothing until he gets that ring. Sure, its a nice boost to have Shaq on your team, but a ring is a ring. Simple as that. And Kobe has 3. If he gets another championship, you can put him in the same sentence as Jordan if you want. Lebron has the skills to be the greatest player ever but he hasn't done anything yet. But your right, he is still very young, has a lot of minutes left to play. I believe he will end up winning multiple rings but thats in years to come...

So to be great, you have to have a ring.......gotcha, lol!

I guess all those reserves who hardly ever play are much better than Bron as well. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif