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I think I like the trade. Stuckey is the future PG and this gets Billups out of the way. With Iverson running the point now. Detroit can now get up and down the floor more and hopefully create more shots for Hamilton, Prince, and Rasheed. Also McDyess said he only wants to play in Detroit, so Denver will likely waive or buy him out and he'll end up back in Detroit.

 
Yeah I think it is a smart move by Detroit on Mcdyess but I am not too sure about giving up Billups..

I feel that he is one of the vital parts of this team..

I hope AI will be able to fill in for Billups and do better..

I am still shocked about this deal, I mean those guys have been around for so long and been doing so well, just that it feels so weird giiving them up (even though McDyess might return)

 
Yeah I think it is a smart move by Detroit on Mcdyess but I am not too sure about giving up Billups..
I feel that he is one of the vital parts of this team..

I hope AI will be able to fill in for Billups and do better..

I am still shocked about this deal, I mean those guys have been around for so long and been doing so well, just that it feels so weird giiving them up (even though McDyess might return)
Stuckey is the future PG. McDyess is most likely going to be a Piston. he was thrown in to match Iverson's salary, and Denver will most likely buy him out and he'll come back to Detroit. Detroit has become the Atlanta Braves of the NBA. 6 straight ECF and only one title.

 
After looking at this trade, how can you not like this trade as a Piston fan? McDyess is coming back so it's Billups for Iverson. Iverson is a better player and the Pistons will have enough space to sign two players to max contracts. Detroit could sign Bosh and Lebron, or Boozer and Lebron. Lebron is likely going to New York, but the 2010 class is very deep.

 
After looking at this trade, how can you not like this trade as a Piston fan? McDyess is coming back so it's Billups for Iverson. Iverson is a better player and the Pistons will have enough space to sign two players to max contracts. Detroit could sign Bosh and Lebron, or Boozer and Lebron. Lebron is likely going to New York, but the 2010 class is very deep.
Dude, you are pathetic. Once again proving my point you only talk about players when they are on your team. You would never have said how you like Iverson if it wasn't for him going to the Pistons.

And now you are talking about how much better he is than Billups. Detriot had team chemistry with those 3 in Billups, Hamilton and Wallace.

I think it is a horrible trade for the Pistons, but good for Denver as I think Billups is a better team player that Iverson.

Also Iverson isn't the player he used to be.

 
Dude, you are pathetic. Once again proving my point you only talk about players when they are on your team. You would never have said how you like Iverson if it wasn't for him going to the Pistons.
And now you are talking about how much better he is than Billups. Detriot had team chemistry with those 3 in Billups, Hamilton and Wallace.

I think it is a horrible trade for the Pistons, but good for Denver as I think Billups is a better team player that Iverson.

Also Iverson isn't the player he used to be.
I'm going to make a list of every single player in all four major sports that I like, just in case one of them happens to end up on Detroit. Iverson isn't the player he was, but his last year stats would have led the Pistons. Billups has been called out by the Detroit media as being too laid back and not playing with 100% effort. The same will not be said about Iverson. Besides what chemistry did Detroit have? Flip was fighting with Ben and Rasheed, there was talks about fighting when Webber was in town, so don't give me this chemistry bullshit. Iverson is a better player period.

 
I guess I have to make it known now, that I would love for Detroit to sign Lebron in 2010.

Pistons get Iverson now, LeBron later?
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports 44 minutes ago

Yahoo! Sports

Joe Dumars had the chance to consider Dallas’ Jason Kidd and his expiring contract over the summer, a league executive said Monday, but the Detroit Pistons president had bigger, bolder ideas. Allen Iverson still gives the Pistons a puncher’s chance in the Eastern Conference this season, but this trade isn’t about him. It isn’t about Chauncey Billups.

Think bigger.

Think bolder.

Think LeBron James, 2010.

The Pistons president doesn’t just have the salary cap space for the Cleveland Cavaliers star. He also has the connections and the championship credibility. Make no mistake: Detroit and Dumars are officially in hot pursuit of James – maybe even the favorite now – and it promises to be a long, agonizing two years for the Cavaliers.

Detroit doesn’t deliver the bright lights and global metropolis destination that James wants when he opts out of his contract in 2010, but two more years of watching Kobe Bryant win titles could transform his priorities. James wants badly to be considered the best player on the planet and that won’t happen until he’s a champion.

James wants a front office with a vision that honors his greatness, and make no mistake: This makes Detroit and Dumars so dangerous, makes them Cleveland’s worst nightmare. The city could justify losing its prodigal son to New York or Los Angeles, but nearby Detroit?

Cleveland would never recover.

So why Iverson over a possible package for Kidd? Several league executives know exactly why: The trade with Denver to make an unhappy Iverson happier just further imbeds the Detroit franchise deeper into James’ agent, Leon Rose, and advisor, William Wesley. Just as they represent James, they rep Iverson.

And as much as anyone, “World Wide” Wes is one of the most important voices in Lebron’s life. Wesley lives in Detroit, where one of Rose’s clients, Richard Hamilton, is a Pistons star. What’s more, Dumars is close to an agreement with Hamilton on a two-year extension that will keep him through 2012, sources say. This is a terrific show of faith for Hamilton, who is trying to recoup hundreds of thousands of dollars that a business manager allegedly stole from him.

Wesley comes and goes at the Palace of Auburn Hills as he pleases, and few have such a window into the winning culture of the Pistons.

As one rival GM said Monday, “**** it, I am afraid Joe has this whole thing wired. He’s got everything in place to pull this off.”

The New Jersey Nets’ move to Brooklyn is falling apart, and so is owner Bruce Ratner’s chances of using limited partner, Jay-Z, to lure James. The Knicks will be a factor, but the bumbling of the Stephon Marbury mess has reflected horribly on the organization. The Knicks have an owner, GM and coach with differing agendas and they’ve made an initial poor impression. Detroit can’t compete with New York as the global city to market James, but winning could take care of everything.

With Donnie Walsh and Mike D’Antoni as GM and coach, the Knicks can still get their act together. Yet, no one will ever need to ask that of Dumars. No one else can sell James on a winning culture as compellingly as Dumars. He had gone as far as he could with Billups, who has three years and $36 million left on his contract. Billups gave the Pistons a slight edge over Iverson to make another run this season, but Dumars had already gotten a final run out of him a year ago. Detroit won a title, reached a Game 7 of the NBA Finals and six straight Eastern Conference finals with Billups.

Now, Billups is 32 years old. He’s declining. This is a low-risk, short-term, high-reward, long-term play for Dumars.

The Pistons president believes that the young guard Rodney Stuckey, a brilliant pick out of Eastern Washington, can take over the Pistons next year. Iverson and Rasheed Wallace could leave the payroll this summer, and the Pistons will be $22 million under the salary cap in 2009. They will have a core of Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince, Stuckey, Jason Maxiell and Amir Johnson in 2010. No one else among James’ serious suitors with cap space has two All-Stars (Hamilton and Prince) and a potential third (Stuckey) for him to join.

Most of all, James knows he’d have Dumas to give him the right coach, the right teammates, the right atmosphere to chase championships for a long, long time. What makes this plan so ingenious is that the bridge from Iverson to Stuckey, from Wallace to Maxiell, makes it possible for the Pistons to reconstruct themselves without bottoming out. They’ll still be a 50-win team. Dumars hates the idea of rebuilding through the lottery, and that won’t need to happen here. He won’t be offering James a heap of ashes in 2010, but a good team needing him to complete its greatness.

For the flawed franchises falling over themselves to get under the salary cap for 2010, the most ingenious plan promises to start out of the NBA’s brightest executive mind. Joe Dumars is thinking big. He’s thinking bold. This will be an agonizing two years in Cleveland.
Maybe bron bron is going bye bye

 
How much are ticket prices for you guys? Just trying to get a gauge. Lakers worst seats in the house are about $60-70 against a crappy team.

 
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