***Offical 08/09 NBA thread!***

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Oh ha ha. They don't meet again til March and it will be in Boston. Then one more time in April in Cleveland. I bet they split them.




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We should call them "Lebron and the Pips".

We will probably split, but confident that we could win in Boston.

And woot, 21-0! I hope they shoot for that 37-0 home record! Shit would be amazing...........

Also LeBron and Willams and the pips, lol! Mo Willams should make the all-star game IMO over Harris or Nelson. Willams is a lot of the reason we are were we are. Manages a game as good as anybody and he can score and dish the ball well and his defense is leaps and bounds better than last year when he was with the Bucks. Dood just missed a triple double last night while LeBron did so and Mo scored almost double what James did with 23........had 43 points. Guy is special!

 

[rtillaree 10+ year member]

We will probably split, but confident that we could win in Boston.
And woot, 21-0! I hope they shoot for that 37-0 home record! Shit would be amazing...........

Also LeBron and Willams and the pips, lol! Mo Willams should make the all-star game IMO over Harris or Nelson. Willams is a lot of the reason we are were we are. Manages a game as good as anybody and he can score and dish the ball well and his defense is leaps and bounds better than last year when he was with the Bucks. Dood just missed a triple double last night while LeBron did so and Mo scored almost double what James did with 23........had 43 points. Guy is special!

Nelson statistically has the edge over Williams in almost every single category, not to mention he does his damage in fewer minutes, outside of the stats, how can you not use your very argument for the Magic's success replacing Mo with Jameer? Same with Harris...

IMO if Jameer & Rashard Lewis do not join Dwight in Phoenix it's a gotdam shame...

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Nelson statistically has the edge over Williams in almost every single category, not to mention he does his damage in fewer minutes, outside of the stats, how can you not use your very argument for the Magic's success replacing Mo with Jameer? Same with Harris...
IMO if Jameer & Rashard Lewis do not join Dwight in Phoenix it's a gotdam shame...

Lewis don't deserve it with all the other good forwards out there. The point guard position seems to be down to Harris, Willams and Nelson and IMHO I think all of them should have it over Iverson.

Also Nelson isn't averaging more pts than Willams as of yesterday. He has a .01lead in rebounding and 1 assist plus more, but Bron is averging over 7 assists a game, which is crazy! I wish Mo would get to handle the ball more, but this is working thus far.

Not saying Nelson shouldn't get it, but Mo has as good a chance if not more than the others.

Harris will probably get it anyway.

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

As far as who helps their team out more, I just think Mo coming from another team and doing what he is doing is something else. He is a very smart with the ball and would be averaging close to 8 plus assists if it wasn't for Bron, he used to with Milwaukee and his minutes are down from last few years.

And yes I know Nelson is playing short on minutes as well.

 

[rtillaree 10+ year member]

oh wow, points...the one whole category, and a whole .4 points more than Nelson at that...take away Mo Williams career game, and the points are a dead heat...one note to keep in mind about Nelson, last year, no team would have wanted him, he was labeled the undersized SG not good enough to be a starter, yet some how starting...now look at, tell me in a room full of 29 other GM's half of them wouldnt raise their hand for this guy now...

as for Lewis, you are wrong...dead wrong...Lewis has been an absolute baller all year, consistent through every game this season, putting up just under 20 points, connecting for 3 3's a game, notching the #1 spot for most 3's made and shooting them at a high clip. His rebounding, steals, and defense have all improved this year. His ability to spread the floor is killing the other teams, same with Jameer, take either of those guys away from the Magic, Magic easily drop 7+ games in the standings...

sure, Granger had put up some great #'s, but his team isnt winning and he hasn't done it on a consistent slope...Bosh will probably be moved to the 5 spot to backup Dwight, so...yea, Lewis deserves the nod...

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

oh wow, points...the one whole category, and a whole .4 points more than Nelson at that...take away Mo Williams career game, and the points are a dead heat...
as for Lewis, you are wrong...dead wrong...Lewis has been an absolute baller all year, consistent through every game this season, putting up just under 20 points, connecting for 3 3's a game, notching the #1 spot for most 3's made and shooting them at a high clip. His rebounding, steals, and defense have all improved this year. His ability to spread the floor is killing the other teams, same with Jameer, take either of those guys away from the Magic, Magic easily drop 7+ games in the standings...

sure, Granger had put up some great #'s, but his team isnt winning and he hasn't done it on a consistent slope...Bosh will probably be moved to the 5 spot to backup Dwight, so...yea, Lewis deserves the nod...

You were the one bringing up stats first when Nelson was barely edging out Willams in most catergorys. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif So I should say Wow on the rebounds or the steals huh..........

Lewis won't make it....................To many others out there and Bosh isn't a center......at all. Guy can't block for a shit, even if it is for the all star game, I just don't see them doing that.

And I agree Lewis is a good player and doing well, but there are so many good players and only one all star team, just not enough spots.

 

[rtillaree 10+ year member]

You were the one bringing up stats first when Nelson was barely edging out Willams in most catergorys. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif So I should say Wow on the rebounds or the steals huh..........
Lewis won't make it....................To many others out there and Bosh isn't a center......at all. Guy can't block for a shit, even if it is for the all star game, I just don't see them doing that.

And I agree Lewis is a good player and doing well, but there are so many good players and only one all star team, just not enough spots.

don't roll your eyes at me pal. my point is, prior to yesterday it was Nelson across the board, today Williams is .4 points better than Nelson...statistically, Nelson>Mp hands down be it yesterday, today or tomorrow...

as for Bosh, Bosh plays C for the Raptors, he does it all the time...they have JO there, but when he's out, or injured (or before he even arrived) Bosh moves over, Bargs is at the 4 then usually and Moon or Graham will front the 3 spot...Bosh will most likely get the reserve spot at the 5 this year, it's already been mentioned...Blocking doesn't really have anything to do with this decision to make Bosh a C, this is the ASG, they dont need defense, and with the way the game is played, they only need one true center any how...they look at it like this, Bosh at the 5 or Samuel Dalembert, gee tough one...

find those other Forwards and I guarantee you a case can be made for Lewis over them...

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

don't roll your eyes at me pal. my point is, prior to yesterday it was Nelson across the board, today Williams is .4 points better than Nelson...statistically, Nelson>Mp hands down be it yesterday, today or tomorrow...
as for Bosh, Bosh plays C for the Raptors, he does it all the time...they have JO there, but when he's out, or injured (or before he even arrived) Bosh moves over, Bargs is at the 4 then usually and Moon or Graham will front the 3 spot...Bosh will most likely get the reserve spot at the 5 this year, it's already been mentioned...Blocking doesn't really have anything to do with this decision to make Bosh a C, this is the ASG, they dont need defense, and with the way the game is played, they only need one true center any how...they look at it like this, Bosh at the 5 or Samuel Dalembert, gee tough one...

find those other Forwards and I guarantee you a case can be made for Lewis over them...

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Opinions vary, once agin showing its ugly head, lol!

I think Willams deserves to go more than Nelson, you think otherwise, not that us being biased wouldn't have anything to do with it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Although, I have mentioned Willams being in the all star game before this year. Also who is MP?

And Bosh gets handled when he is at center. I have seen it all to often, he can't bang with the big boys, He is a good shooter and makes smart plays, but he is the tallest PF I have ever seen when he plays like a small guard. Uusually your centers or good forbid your Power Forwards can block some shots and Toronto is horrible at that besides maybe JO, but he can't stay on the court. Besides him nobody there is a good shot blocker, which comes in handy from time to time.

David Lee, Danny Granger, Antwan Jamison, Rudy Gay, hell I would even take Tayshawn Prince over him.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

We will probably split, but confident that we could win in Boston.

But they haven't yet now have they?? And even if they do they still have to do it in the playoffs.

And woot, 21-0! I hope they shoot for that 37-0 home record! Shit would be amazing...........

That would be an awesome feat but try beating Boston's awesome feat of 40-1 at home.

Also LeBron and Willams and the pips, lol! Mo Willams should make the all-star game IMO over Harris or Nelson. Willams is a lot of the reason we are were we are. Manages a game as good as anybody and he can score and dish the ball well and his defense is leaps and bounds better than last year when he was with the Bucks. Dood just missed a triple double last night while LeBron did so and Mo scored almost double what James did with 23........had 43 points. Guy is special!

All star crap means nothing to me. The playoffs are what matters.

 

[ace_800 5,000+ posts]

Jameer is the f'n man, I've been a fan of him since he was drafted. Finally got him to sign my Jersey last year at the Nets game in Jersey. He doesn't like to sign shit though, took 3 games for him to sign anything. I wish he was a step quicker though, he gets beat off the dribble by faster PG's. If our threes arn't falling then we are in trouble. I'm hoping that we can get Bosh when he becomes a FA. I'd trade Hedo for Bosh. Move Lewis over, having Bosh as PF.

 

[rtillaree 10+ year member]

Jameer is the f'n man, I've been a fan of him since he was drafted. Finally got him to sign my Jersey last year at the Nets game in Jersey. He doesn't like to sign shit though, took 3 games for him to sign anything. I wish he was a step quicker though, he gets beat off the dribble by faster PG's. If our threes arn't falling then we are in trouble. I'm hoping that we can get Bosh when he becomes a FA. I'd trade Hedo for Bosh. Move Lewis over, having Bosh as PF.

a step quicker? dude is already pretty quick, it's not really that he needs to become quicker, it's all in how he plays the lane...he's done an awesome job so far this year on most match ups, this year he has been a whole different player on defense, his only real deficient area on defense is when he goes up against the bigger PG's that like to post up (Billups, Stuckey, Andre Miller)...Nelson has really toughened up this year, which is great because this was the last year I was giving him before I started to rain down the judgment on him...4 years of mediocre performance...luckily though, I stayed on board and he's really pushing this team...

lol, getting Bosh...I love Bosh, but c'mon, Luxury Tax much? Trading Hedo for Bosh? lol, yea I can see any team in the league making that trade, minus Toronto of course...besides, Orlando is going to re-sign Hedo, he's too much of an integral part of our offense to lose him, Stan runs so much through him that losing him would change 50% of our offensive dynamic...

 

[rtillaree 10+ year member]

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[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

But they haven't yet now have they?? And even if they do they still have to do it in the playoffs.


That would be an awesome feat but try beating Boston's awesome feat of 40-1 at home.

All star crap means nothing to me. The playoffs are what matters.

They have only played two games............

We took you to 7 games last year and just missed beating you guys with a much weaker overall team.

40-1 is insane, no doubt.

Don't care if you care about the all-star game. I actually enjoy it.

To Rilla, game is about to come on in less than an hour! See who does better tonight. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[rtillaree 10+ year member]

yea i'm sitting here in my seats waiting for it to start...atmosphere should be great...

how bout them all stars tho...

Dwight, Nelson & Rashard....Magic with 3 baby...all well deserved...

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Well they deserve it, still surprised at Rashard though.

Go Cavs!