New RE MX and XXX Prices!

[Feandil 10+ year member]

Believe me, Ive read your theories on these new speakers before, I fully understand your position. I just find it funny you chastize someone for speculating about the sub (in a positive light) because they know nothing about the specs, yet you miss no opportunity to speculate yourself. Even in this reply, where I did not question your guesses, you go on about them. You even state you've never compared it to the old one, then the very next line you do. For all I know, you are exactly right. I suspect you are actually. But don't bite off someone elses head for doing the same thing you are. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

my "guesses" are based upon knowledge I have about the MX and the XXX... both of them

they use the same cone as the old XXX's used... the coil likely is 2-3x heavier than the old one used (just using split coil over XBL2 will add a lot... then add 50mm one way and you have a VERY large coil)... the spider is heavier... the surround is much heavier...

all that only leads to one place... efficency losses.... no matter how you look at it

had he made a point such as "this has so much more excursion than the old one and therefore would be better" I doubt people would have jumped on him like they did

I never said it wasn't possible I'm completely wrong... maybe RE dumped their old super durable cones in light of a much lighter paper and sacrificed a "rocking free" perfectly balanced moving mass structure... I just have a good feeling they didn't do this //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

just looking at the speaker you realize how much Sd is lost from that at least 1.5" wide 1/2 roll surround... probably down to most 10" subs

the only way to get back to beat the old XXX is to gain efficency (which .... unfortunately I don't see happening) and have 50-60mm one way... and both of these ways would simply TIE the old XXX in maximum output... not actually best it "by a super large margin that would show the JL w7 who's boss"

anyway... more than I wanted to get into...

Maybe I told him to wait for specs because of how UNLIKELY it is that it significantly bests the old XXX

 

[Feandil 10+ year member]

If this guy had speculated the subs will **** based on his previous opinion of RE, agreeing with your theories rather than going against them, would you have replied to him in the same manner?

yes because that's still a TERRIBLE reason to base an opinion upon

it's more the nature of what he said rather than him supporting RE

If he said "they look beefy, I bet they'll wang"

that's different... but he said that they NECESSARILY will blow away the competition... and of course... this isn't true

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

my "guesses" are based upon knowledge I have about the MX and the XXX ... the coil likely is 2-3x heavier than the old one used

Just so we're both on the same page here.... you are speculating to gain your 'knowledge' of these speakers performance, just like he did. Look, again I didn't ask for a paragraph of speculation justifying your theories, Ive read it all before. And Im also not even saying you are wrong to speculate. But I am saying you are wrong to question this person's speculation based on his lack of knowledge of actual specs. You do not know anymore about these subs actual specs than does that guy, yet your speculation goes much much further. But when this guy gives his opinion they will be good based on his previous experience with the company, you act like he killed baby jesus. Yes he's a bit over enthusiastic about the company probably, but give him a break, he's just stating his opinion on the subject... dont think anyone took it as fact. If you are going to speculate (especially as much as you do), do not get on other people's cases for doing the same thing. The pot versus the kettle... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

No offense meant to ya Feandil, just bustin your chops a bit since you're bustin his.

 

[Hundreth 10+ year member]

As the world turns...

 

[OlogyAudio 10+ year member]

Just so we're both on the same page here.... you are speculating to gain your 'knowledge' of these speakers performance, just like he did. Look, again I didn't ask for a paragraph of speculation justifying your theories, Ive read it all before. And Im also not even saying you are wrong to speculate. But I am saying you are wrong to question this person's speculation based on his lack of knowledge of actual specs. You do not know anymore about these subs actual specs than does that guy, yet your speculation goes much much further. But when this guy gives his opinion they will be good based on his previous experience with the company, you act like he killed baby jesus. Yes he's a bit over enthusiastic about the company probably, but give him a break, he's just stating his opinion on the subject... dont think anyone took it as fact. If you are going to speculate (especially as much as you do), do not get on other people's cases for doing the same thing. The pot versus the kettle... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
No offense meant to ya Feandil, just bustin your chops a bit since you're bustin his.

Geez... This thead is so nice //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

This is all speculation no matter how educated it is... I doubt that any good is going to come from this thread... I don't see the need to extrapolate more information from what we know simply to clarify the quality of the XXX subs. We will all find out how they perform soon enough.

When they release specs and t/s we will know better what the real deal is...

Everybody may as well stop busting everyone else up.

 

[swc204 10+ year member]

mods should start locking these type of threads right away....at least until the official release

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

No RE for you!

I am the RE nazi...

 

[OlogyAudio 10+ year member]

mods should start locking these type of threads right away....at least until the official release

Yea -- Wait for an official statement -- I think this thread is dead...

 

[ChuteBoxe515 10+ year member]

oops...nevermind

 

[Omarvelous 10+ year member]

Wait for an official statement

lmao.....

Your a funny guy ology!

Wait... lmao! That was funny. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/hilarious.gif.02a037aad04aa96f19982b298a3d70a8.gif

 

[OlogyAudio 10+ year member]

lmao.....
Your a funny guy ology!

Wait... lmao! That was funny. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/hilarious.gif.02a037aad04aa96f19982b298a3d70a8.gif

I'd imagine soon is another good word //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/blush.gif.99bc659ee2012b7d826165e26fb5eebe.gif or how bout 2 weeks? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

This thread would be more interesting if we start taking bets...

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

We've taken bets like 27 times already.

 

[Omarvelous 10+ year member]

We've taken bets like 27 times already.

Heyyy..... never told me!!!

I bet we'll get some specs.........Early march.

 

[Defconx3 10+ year member]

I have to admit that this thread does not seem to be going anywhere. I would recommend that it be locked until further official information is released.

 

[qtipextra 5,000+ posts]

wow, it took a page for people to suggest what I have already suggested, its as if nobody even reads my posts.

 

[LuNaTiC 10+ year member]

I never said the new RE subs are gonna deff be sick.. Well I might have. But I'm just saying knowing the performance of there previous products I would'nt doubt these new subs are gonna be awesome. But ofcourse (to Squeak) I don't know whether they are or not for a fact.

/end thread.

 

[Hundreth 10+ year member]

wow, it took a page for people to suggest what I have already suggested, its as if nobody even reads my posts.

Em, refer to post #21... you weren't the first and you weren't the last.

 

[Crown_amps]

No RE for you!
I am the RE nazi...

hahahhahaha OWNED:naughty:

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Heyyy..... never told me!!!
I bet we'll get some specs.........Early march.

I think March was my guess the first time the betting went around. But then, I was betting on March of 2005. Seriously. These things were supposedly due to be released early 2005, betting on dates at this point seems like total guess work. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif