my new BEAST!!!!

[TheUnderFighter 10+ year member]

Looks small, and quiet. Everybody knows real subs have 0 gauge direct leads!

 

[splwj47 10+ year member]

Its not going on the back //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/up2something.gif.dd110ecf3ae4b76050d87598f2f8de7c.gif

wheres it going?

 

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Looks small' date=' and quiet. Everybody knows real subs have 0 gauge direct leads![/quote']
now that would be something.

 

[brooklynjoy2008 10+ year member]

There's a quick one...

Mmmmmmmmmmmm. I had plans for that mofo. When you decide to sell let me know.

 

[SourDeez 10+ year member]

FYI everything is also louder in canada because of the denser air from

a. the mountains

B. the marijuana smoke

c. the polar bears/wolves/moose

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

i hated to say it but once you look at that sub its meh. the motor is cool and all but evrything else could look better.

 

[splwj47 10+ year member]

i hated to say it but once you look at that sub its meh. the motor is cool and all but evrything else could look better.

What sub are u talking about

 

[Bettr n' Revrse 5,000+ posts]

wheres it going?

I was kinda keeping it under wraps but il trying to do a center console...

Mmmmmmmmmmmm. I had plans for that mofo. When you decide to sell let me know.

Will do... I have a few other 8's I will sell first though...

 

[will3 10+ year member]

That was one of the most stupid fights I have seen. (Even if he was apparently trolling) A Warden will beat an Apxx any day.

I'm curious are you stating this as a fact or opinion, so I am assuming you have first hand experience with both drivers in both SPL and daily applications, doesn't really matter either way they both work very well , but I have had first hand experience with both in SPL and daily apps and they are alot closer than you think

 

[murph 10+ year member]

I'm curious are you stating this as a fact or opinion, so I am assuming you have first hand experience with both drivers in both SPL and daily applications, doesn't really matter either way they both work very well , but I have had first hand experience with both in SPL and daily apps and they are alot closer than you think

A lot closer and even are not the same. If it was the 18 warden verse the 18 Apxx it may be more neck to neck but not with the 21 warden. It was never a fair comparison to begin with since the warden starts off with a stronger motor than he also has the 21 inch version.

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

What sub are u talking about

wardan

 

[splwj47 10+ year member]

wardan

U sound stupid and are making urself look retarded.

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

U sound stupid and are making urself look retarded.

not really. ive seen them IRL and im not a fan of the looks at all.

 

[will3 10+ year member]

A lot closer and even are not the same. If it was the 18 warden verse the 18 Apxx it may be more neck to neck but not with the 21 warden. It was never a fair comparison to begin with since the warden starts off with a stronger motor than he also has the 21 inch version.

 

Who said it had a stronger motor , this is the sticky from this forum

 

RE: 2.22 ohms

BL: 24.86 NA

BL^2/RE: 278 (nice!)

 

A standard 9" diameter SPL motor with 8-layer 3" coil typically has 150-200 BL^2/RE... so this thing is strong.

 

Only thing I have stronger is the Monster prototype (10" slugs and 12-layer coil) @ 360 but the coil is 50% heavier than the Warden and also a 42mm WW so has less excursion.

 

- Jacob

 

These are the T/S parameters for the 3" coil APXX and APX 18's,(i posted the 3" coil specs for a more apples to apples comparision)

 

The APXX18D1

Revc - 2 ohms

Bl 26.88

Bl^2/RE -361.27

 

APX18Q2

Revc - 8.00 ohms

Bl -41.30

Bl^2/RE -213.12

 

and I know he's refering to a 21" Warden versus an 18" APXX, but cone area and excursion would be the only thing that would even the 2 up, and I have competed with the 21" Warden for the last 2 years, and i am a dealer for both Atomic and Incriminator audio, they are both awesome drivers but like I posted before in real world applications they are pretty **** close, in some cases I would prefer one over the other, but to just say one owns the other is incorrect

 

[splwj47 10+ year member]

Who said it had a stronger motor , this is the sticky from this forum
RE: 2.22 ohms

BL: 24.86 NA

BL^2/RE: 278 (nice!)

A standard 9" diameter SPL motor with 8-layer 3" coil typically has 150-200 BL^2/RE... so this thing is strong.

Only thing I have stronger is the Monster prototype (10" slugs and 12-layer coil) @ 360 but the coil is 50% heavier than the Warden and also a 42mm WW so has less excursion.

- Jacob

These are the T/S parameters for the 3" coil APXX and APX 18's,(i posted the 3" coil specs for a more apples to apples comparision)

The APXX18D1

Revc - 2 ohms

Bl 26.88

Bl^2/RE -361.27

APX18Q2

Revc - 8.00 ohms

Bl -41.30

Bl^2/RE -213.12

and I know he's refering to a 21" Warden versus an 18" APXX, but cone area and excursion would be the only thing that would even the 2 up, and I have competed with the 21" Warden for the last 2 years, and i am a dealer for both Atomic and Incriminator audio, they are both awesome drivers but like I posted before in real world applications they are pretty **** close, in some cases I would prefer one over the other, but to just say one owns the other is incorrect

where did you find the t/s parameters for the atomic woofers?

 

[will3 10+ year member]

I am a dealer , and have been Team Atomic twice, late 90's and mid 2000's, some I have pulled myself, most come straight from George off the LEAP

Any of them you want all the way back to the AP and HPW subwoofers I have