looking to add four 10's for strictly higher bass sealed, one amp. what's good?

[ahardy17 10+ year member]

i'm looking for some modest 10's to throw in a nice tight sealed box in addition to my ported box tuned at 36hz. that box covers the low end real well for my needs and i want to add some knock with these 10's and make my car even more of a hearing problem.

i need suggestions and feedback on ideas as to where i should get these 10's. like i said i want modest but i do want quality out of these lower power subs. i have been eyeing the IA 187 series and DC level 1's. even soundstream arachnids and ascendant assassin series. i really want to go with a trusted company we all know rather than a best buy special, ya know?

so to start off does anyone have any recommendations for 10's i could push 4 of with maybe 1000-2000 watts? is that a wide range? haha i havent looked into amps for them too much yet

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[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

Mixing sub sizes is a bad idea, it will lead to cancellation issues. If you insist on doing it, you have to make sure you cross them over so that your 10's are covering a different frequency range than your other sub(s)

 

[misfit138 5,000+ posts]

The DC Level 1 isn't available.

 

[FurbiesAndBeans 10+ year member]

Your SUBwoofers are for the lower frequencies. I suggest you invest in better component speakers and install them properly instead of trying to add more subwoofers.

 

[misfit138 5,000+ posts]

I just re-read the opening post. This is a bad idea.

If you want more "high bass", you'll want to upgrade your mids or buy better components in general. I'd be willing to bet your current front stage is cheap as hell and/or poorly installed.

 

[ahardy17 10+ year member]

I just re-read the opening post. This is a bad idea.
If you want more "high bass", you'll want to upgrade your mids or buy better components in general. I'd be willing to bet your current front stage is cheap as hell and/or poorly installed.

that's such a losing bet i laughed because my front stage is actually components with 5x7 woofers running on 150 watts per channel at 2 ohms..and yes the tweeters are mounted at the proper listening angle on the doors. i have 3 amps for speakers and the lows make my teeth chatter it's all there i just want the knock of the 10's because the 12's in that huge ported box handle the lows nicely but they dont have much resistance in that box so i dont want to push them too hard with stuff around 150hz. i do plan on crossing them over so the 10's handle 200-75hz and and memphis subs take everything from about 100hz and down

anyone have any experience with the 187 series?

 

[dumple 5,000+ posts]

your reasoning is flawed get better mids a 3 way set up will be fantastic, but do list all of your current set up for lulz

 

[misfit138 5,000+ posts]

but do list all of your current set up for lulz

please.

 

[AllenH427 10+ year member]

your reasoning is flawed get better mids a 3 way set up will be fantastic, but do list all of your current set up for lulz

please.

You guys beat me to it lololololol

 

[Vossy 10+ year member]

Wait, you want sealed 10's for "highs"

and ported 12's for "lows"

This is a fail thread.

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

the compliance of a ported woofer above tuning will be similar to that of a sealed box without the port. You can cross your ported sub at 150hz no issues if you choose too. It will behave just like it would sealed, although it might not sound like it since your porting adds so much low end it will cover it up. Small sealed boxes dont' really have any extra top end, they just dont' have a botttom end covering it up.

Also anyone who tells you multiple subs will lead to cancellation doesn't know what he is talking about and is merely mirroring others on here who say the same thing. It won't inherently cause any cancellation, as a matter of fact, the act of attempting to cross the over will most likely result in more cancellation that letting them each cover similar ranges. You have alot more cabin gain at 50hz than you do at 100hz and with so many people using ported setups and running everything balls to the wall, I'd bet a setup that your outlining would be MORE linear in the subbass/midbass transition area than most. Realistically what your doing isn't a terrible idea from a SQ or SPL perspective at all, it's simply considered ghetto on here. If your really trying to push the "massive bass" area of your system higher and don't mind hearing it behind you and want loud from an area higher than 60-30 and more like 145-20, this is a good way to do it. Imo, get something sensative that likes a small box to save space. This inherently means it won't play low, but that's fine since you don't need it to at all anyway really.

Edit: To all you kids making fun of him. 80% of you have boxes tunign between 35-45hz, somewhere smack dab near where the highest audible cabin gain occurs in a car. You have no gain above 60hz comparitively speaking and you roll off hard below tuning, how flat do you think yoru subbass is?

 

[dumple 5,000+ posts]

the compliance of a ported woofer above tuning will be similar to that of a sealed box without the port. You can cross your ported sub at 150hz no issues if you choose too. It will behave just like it would sealed, although it might not sound like it since your porting adds so much low end it will cover it up. Small sealed boxes dont' really have any extra top end, they just dont' have a botttom end covering it up.
Also anyone who tells you multiple subs will lead to cancellation doesn't know what he is talking about and is merely mirroring others on here who say the same thing. It won't inherently cause any cancellation, as a matter of fact, the act of attempting to cross the over will most likely result in more cancellation that letting them each cover similar ranges. You have alot more cabin gain at 50hz than you do at 100hz and with so many people using ported setups and running everything balls to the wall, I'd bet a setup that your outlining would be MORE linear in the subbass/midbass transition area than most. Realistically what your doing isn't a terrible idea from a SQ or SPL perspective at all, it's simply considered ghetto on here. If your really trying to push the "massive bass" area of your system higher and don't mind hearing it behind you and want loud from an area higher than 60-30 and more like 145-20, this is a good way to do it. Imo, get something sensative that likes a small box to save space. This inherently means it won't play low, but that's fine since you don't need it to at all anyway really.

Edit: To all you kids making fun of him. 80% of you have boxes tunign between 35-45hz, somewhere smack dab near where the highest audible cabin gain occurs in a car. You have no gain above 60hz comparitively speaking and you roll off hard below tuning, how flat do you think yoru subbass is?

i dont have subs //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif