lookin for good components

[mazzasec 5,000+ posts]

What makes those one so bad? I am not perticularly looking for the best quality out there just something decent

 

[amoffitt 10+ year member]

na there really good, tweeters are great overall a good speaker.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

If it were me, I'd go somewhere like here: http://www.zaphaudio.com, read the reviews, and pick out individual drivers.

With a 6-channel amp, it's not like you don't have the amp channels to bi-amp.

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

...could always turn the subs down?
For $200, I'd run Seas paper cone midbasses, Vifa tweets, run them active...you've got the amp channels for it.

active ftw win //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/yumyum.gif.0556df42231b304b9c995aefd13928a8.gif

 

[mazzasec 5,000+ posts]

how are these?

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_3099_Boston+Acoustics+SL60.html

better then the rockford's?

EDIT:

also looking at these

http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=303

 

[mvw2 10+ year member]

Output will be limited by two things, excursion and thermal power handling. Excursion will be your main limitation. The lack of said excursion means you're forced to cross higher so you don't keep bottoming out the woofer(or tweeter).

I will tell you right now that NO, I mean NO 6.5" woofer will be able to keep up with a pair of decent excursion subs. Heck, a single 12" of mild excursion in a ported enclosure will overpower anything you can buy that's 6.5" or lower. You'd have to start looking at 8" or 10" dedicated midbasses just to match the capable output of a single 12", or cross quite high(think towards 150Hz).

My take, stick to some decent excursion. Since the Adire Extremis is no more, you might want to head over to Creative Sound Solutions and look at their new SDX7. Then pair it to a tweeter that can get down to 2kHz cause you'll probably need it. I can't find specific frequency response graphs for it though, so I don't know how well it does up top. You might consider pairing it with a 2" or even 3" full range driver. The Aura "whisper" is a well liked 2" mid that can be used as a tweeter replacement but offer better low end usability and overall output. The same goes for TangBand's 3" full range drivers. The Bamboo and Titanium coned mids extend up high nicely. The larger format high range will also allow higher overall output and flexability in the x-over point.

 

[mazzasec 5,000+ posts]

Not even 2 sets of 6 1/2 and one set of some 6x9's?

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

I will tell you right now that NO, I mean NO 6.5" woofer will be able to keep up with a pair of decent excursion subs. Heck, a single 12" of mild excursion in a ported enclosure will overpower anything you can buy that's 6.5" or lower. You'd have to start looking at 8" or 10" dedicated midbasses just to match the capable output of a single 12", or cross quite high(think towards 150Hz).

I'd have to disagree with you there //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

It's all in the install. I've heard a pair of 5.25's go low enough that subs weren't needed in the first place. And just because a 12" can overpower a front stage, doesn't mean it should.

 

[kingkong101 10+ year member]

what is GOING ACTIVE?? all of you always say it it confuses me.. What is going active?

 

[kingkong101 10+ year member]

Seas CA18RNX

Vifa XT25

JIMJ, where do i go to get a crossover for these two speakers? the seas is the paper cone and the vifa is the tweeter, how can i find these to buy online and get specs on the size? who makes the xover?

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

what is GOING ACTIVE?? all of you always say it it confuses me.. What is going active?

It simply means taking out the passive crossovers and replacing them with an electronic one - either built into the head unit itself or as an external unit. You'll see a lot of head units marketed as "3-way active capable"...that's what they mean. For a basic tweeter & midbass combo, you need four channels of amplification as well, one pair for the tweets and the other pair for the midbasses.

 

[kingkong101 10+ year member]

thanks, so i have a 4 channel amp, will the setup i just showed you work well? were can i find the active electronic crossover for that setup?

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

Those drivers sound fine.

As for an active Xover, Coustic, Audiocontrol and others make decent outboard units...or you could upgrade your head unit to one that's got one built in. I personally like having the control right up front, so you aren't fiddling around with an external one and trying to hear the difference up front.

 

[kingkong101 10+ year member]

what kind of headunit do i need? i have a 4900ib i guess thats not good enough right.

 

[SQL4Life 10+ year member]

what kind of headunit do i need? i have a 4900ib i guess thats not good enough right.

why not? is that the Pioneer 4900? It has four volt outputs