kinetik HC800 and Powermaster D925

Wow, your just all over the place....

When I say wins, I mean WINS! Or I would have explained it in greater detail.

Wins in the lanes - I've personally seen 15+ cars make the switch and gain. When you sale amps and subs for a living and help competitors with there cars your in prime action to see alot.

Wins for daily driving - Once again I've seen this for myself several times.....Nothing to tell......

Wins in the lab - The results back up the above....

Wins with correct spec - All PM products have the right specifications on them.

Even wins in a court of law......Check it out - http://http://www.powermastermotorsports.com/suit.pdf

Thanks,

Nick

 
Wow, your just all over the place....
When I say wins, I mean WINS! Or I would have explained it in greater detail.

Wins in the lanes - I've personally seen 15+ cars make the switch and gain. When you sale amps and subs for a living and help competitors with there cars your in prime action to see alot.

Wins for daily driving - Once again I've seen this for myself several times.....Nothing to tell......

Wins in the lab - The results back up the above....

Wins with correct spec - All PM products have the right specifications on them.

Even wins in a court of law......Check it out - http://http://www.powermastermotorsports.com/suit.pdf

Thanks,

Nick
Ahh so now they won that too? Says here it is Current Status so Current Status= settled //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

From the dates on this how did they test a battery that was not released:confused:

Tests dated in 2007 and the battery in question is released in 2008? Was this audio related at all or racing batteries? the KR in KR16 = Kinetik Racing

Good advetisment though I guess huh? Taco Bell should file a complaint against Mcdonalds then advertise it to scare customers away.

I know of HC Powers (prequels to Kinetik) still in sizable systems (6000+watts all class a/b) that get driven and the batteries were installed more than 5 years ago running off of 1 240 amp alt and 3 what would now be called HC2000's..How many daily drivers you know running 5 + year old powermasters (probably closer to 7)?

For the greatest battery since sliced bread why do people still use and win with NSB and Stinger over PM? A lot of VERY good competitors say they are louder with the other brands even after their own head to head tests.

Kinetik still wins in the lanes + they have a pretty huge winners list this year, last year, the year before that.....that is in USACI, IASCA and DB Drag. Kinetik also ACTUALLY supports competitors AND the SHOWS themselves. They actually BUY booth space, SPONSOR after parties and SPONSOR special events in every major car audio sanctioning body..They also do not "sneak in" guerilla style.....

For the record you have not answered any of my questions or a couple of others here you just retorted to another sales pitch...I can respect that after all you are a PM distributor.

 
Ahh so now they won that too? Says here it is Current Status so Current Status= settled //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gifFrom the dates on this how did they test a battery that was not released:confused:

Tests dated in 2007 and the battery in question is released in 2008? Was this audio related at all or racing batteries? the KR in KR16 = Kinetik Racing

Good advetisment though I guess huh? Taco Bell should file a complaint against Mcdonalds then advertise it to scare customers away.

I know of HC Powers (prequels to Kinetik) still in sizable systems (6000+watts all class a/b) that get driven and the batteries were installed more than 5 years ago running off of 1 240 amp alt and 3 what would now be called HC2000's..How many daily drivers you know running 5 + year old powermasters (probably closer to 7)?

For the greatest battery since sliced bread why do people still use and win with NSB and Stinger over PM? A lot of VERY good competitors say they are louder with the other brands even after their own head to head tests.

Kinetik still wins in the lanes + they have a pretty huge winners list this year, last year, the year before that.....that is in USACI, IASCA and DB Drag. Kinetik also ACTUALLY supports competitors AND the SHOWS themselves. They actually BUY booth space, SPONSOR after parties and SPONSOR special events in every major car audio sanctioning body..They also do not "sneak in" guerilla style.....

For the record you have not answered any of my questions or a couple of others here you just retorted to another sales pitch...I can respect that after all you are a PM distributor.
Yes, the batteries where bought the minute they were released! So they could be tested. I don't know what's so hard about it! People sell product and you buy it and test it.

Hey if McDonalds says that every burger has twice as much meat and cheese and is twice is filling as Taco Bell, and they then only put half as much meat and cheese. Then yes Taco Bell should sue them......Doesn't matter if its food or batteries, specifications are specifications. We've got tons of information, tests, lab test, etc to back up all the data that’s provided on the site and that's only a small bit as too what is actually on file.

You keep talking about me not answering your questions what do you want to know? Ask and make me bullets and I will get to all of them. But since we are trading questions and answer. Why don't you give me test results where all the batteries Kinetik batteries meet spec? You want to question my word and honesty, fine, but at the same time prove to me your not false advertising.

You're right on one point no one has ran Powermaster batteries for over 5+ years, but the reason is they haven't been in business that long. But that usually happens when you load the questions. How many people have been running Kinetik for 15 years? And the answer is none. What does that prove nothing, you seem to want to dance around and make idiotic arguments. I guess you drive a 1992 350Z too, huh?

You're right again, Kinetik does win and they do support shows. Once again this proves nothing. I'm not saying Kinetik is a bad product, I actually like all the folks that work there, I even consider Erik a friend. But the OP asked what the better product is and the answer is Powermaster.

If you want to call the truth a sales pitch go ahead, I'm just stating facts. A sells pitch is when you say your battery can do twice its rating. That is a sales pitch. On the other hand, I'm at tons of show and have tons of friend that run both brands so it not hard to do testing. I actually have this building of subwoofers and amplifiers, so getting test result even on my end is super easy. Why would I lie? The end result is bad business for me and it will hurt my reputation. I have nothing to gain from lying. I've been in business for 6+ years now, I'm not a fly by night company, hell I've even got money that says at some point you've probably owned one of my products. Maybe not an Incriminator Audio product, but an OEM unit. Every post until know you keep coming back with this and that, like I'm lying to you. Check around on the internet, call people, email people, whatever you want to do. I promise you no one will tell you anything bad about me. So once again, why would I lie? The answer is simple I wouldn't.

Yes, I'm a Powermaster Distributor; it’s on my site - http://www.incriminatoraudio.com. Do I actively promote their brand, not really, but I do when asked, give clear answers. When this topic came about I was surfing the web, looking to answer questions and be helpful, I didn't know this post would turn into this and to the OP, sorry bro. But at the same time I refused to be called a lair.

Let me ask you this Audiolife. Let’s say you own XYZ company and let’s say it’s a racing company and you just came out with a new motor that does 500 HP. Then you find out that with ABC companies fuel you motor can make 575 HP. Would you not sell their fuel to your customers so you product could be even better?

People come to me and expect the best with it comes to subwoofers and amplifiers and guess what my subwoofers is only as good as the amp it connected to and that amp is only as good as the battery it’s connected to.

Plain and simple, I want my product to excel, and if it take them being hooked to a PM to do it, then so be it.

Thanks,

Nick Wright

Incriminator Audio

 
Yes, the batteries where bought the minute they were released! So they could be tested. I don't know what's so hard about it! People sell product and you buy it and test it.
Hey if McDonalds says that every burger has twice as much meat and cheese and is twice is filling as Taco Bell, and they then only put half as much meat and cheese. Then yes Taco Bell should sue them......Doesn't matter if its food or batteries, specifications are specifications. We've got tons of information, tests, lab test, etc to back up all the data that’s provided on the site and that's only a small bit as too what is actually on file.

You keep talking about me not answering your questions what do you want to know? Ask and make me bullets and I will get to all of them. But since we are trading questions and answer. Why don't you give me test results where all the batteries Kinetik batteries meet spec? You want to question my word and honesty, fine, but at the same time prove to me your not false advertising.

You're right on one point no one has ran Powermaster batteries for over 5+ years, but the reason is they haven't been in business that long. But that usually happens when you load the questions. How many people have been running Kinetik for 15 years? And the answer is none. What does that prove nothing, you seem to want to dance around and make idiotic arguments. I guess you drive a 1992 350Z too, huh?

You're right again, Kinetik does win and they do support shows. Once again this proves nothing. I'm not saying Kinetik is a bad product, I actually like all the folks that work there, I even consider Erik a friend. But the OP asked what the better product is and the answer is Powermaster.

If you want to call the truth a sales pitch go ahead, I'm just stating facts. A sells pitch is when you say your battery can do twice its rating. That is a sales pitch. On the other hand, I'm at tons of show and have tons of friend that run both brands so it not hard to do testing. I actually have this building of subwoofers and amplifiers, so getting test result even on my end is super easy. Why would I lie? The end result is bad business for me and it will hurt my reputation. I have nothing to gain from lying. I've been in business for 6+ years now, I'm not a fly by night company, hell I've even got money that says at some point you've probably owned one of my products. Maybe not an Incriminator Audio product, but an OEM unit. Every post until know you keep coming back with this and that, like I'm lying to you. Check around on the internet, call people, email people, whatever you want to do. I promise you no one will tell you anything bad about me. So once again, why would I lie? The answer is simple I wouldn't.

Yes, I'm a Powermaster Distributor; it’s on my site - http://www.incriminatoraudio.com. Do I actively promote their brand, not really, but I do when asked, give clear answers. When this topic came about I was surfing the web, looking to answer questions and be helpful, I didn't know this post would turn into this and to the OP, sorry bro. But at the same time I refused to be called a lair.

Let me ask you this Audiolife. Let’s say you own XYZ company and let’s say it’s a racing company and you just came out with a new motor that does 500 HP. Then you find out that with ABC companies fuel you motor can make 575 HP. Would you not sell their fuel to your customers so you product could be even better?

People come to me and expect the best with it comes to subwoofers and amplifiers and guess what my subwoofers is only as good as the amp it connected to and that amp is only as good as the battery it’s connected to.

Plain and simple, I want my product to excel, and if it take them being hooked to a PM to do it, then so be it.

Thanks,

Nick Wright

Incriminator Audio
Only sub woofer you could have possibly made is my Assless. Just like you say you gotta go with what you feel is best, you have financial intrests but other companies in the bizz don't seem to have issues with recommending Kinetik and they seem not to have issues with winning trophies in SQ, Bass Race, or SPL.

Also YOU brought up the suit so please explain to me the importance of tests ran down to 7.2v..does the new 20.1 do that? (not an insult just seeing if you are understanding where I am coming from). Also a complaint is just a complaint that is why they have trials..thats just a fact.

What was it 250 bucks to be a sponsor for usaci finals? The fact a company sponsors competitors but not the shows is kind of troubling...and to be all about "competition" and the best they either didn't want to, or couldn't afford too.

 
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