Its kwel bro ! just some people only know what there told and not the whole truth ! Its life and we move on to bigger and better things, its call succeeding !
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Succeeding no matter who you step on to the top huh Chris?
I admitted I don't know much about christoph nor do I care to argue about if he cheated or why he did.
But I can't believe you would come on here and say you designed the 4hp motor.
Who cares, there is a reason Mike went with the motor he did on the sig and its the same reason it's louder than the 4hp.
I admitted I don't know much about christoph nor do I care to argue about if he cheated or why he did.
But I can't believe you would come on here and say you designed the 4hp motor.
Who cares, there is a reason Mike went with the motor he did on the sig and its the same reason it's louder than the 4hp.
I guess you better re read what I wrote ! I redesigned it ! Walk on ? Give me a break you dont know the half, but as long as your in bed with Mike you will always stand by your ^%$&^$ !
I BTW I will but up one of my woofers anyday to mikes ! Name the time and place and we will see who will come out on top !
Wow, in bed with Mike is what you think?
I'm sorry if I'm incorrect in the things that i've said as I am only going by mikes words and to many they mean nothing.
If you say you redesigned it and made it better then more power to you.
Chin up, and good luck with your business.
I'm sorry if I'm incorrect in the things that i've said as I am only going by mikes words and to many they mean nothing.
If you say you redesigned it and made it better then more power to you.
Chin up, and good luck with your business.
It just pisses me off that he sugar coats things and makes everyone else out to be the bad guy and him the omighty hero ! Im sorry things went the way they did for mike, i truley am, but he should have been a big boy and maned up to the people he owes, right wrong or in different he will always be in debt to me ! I know what it is like to owe a ton fock of money being in buisness for myself, its crazy ! but mike on the oter hand has burnt more bridges than you could ever imagine ! I wish his the best of luck in all that he does ! and you as well ! In the end please know all the facts in a matter before posting, because it can get out of control !
Chris
Chris
Dually noted. Have a good one.
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Now that that's settled, may I request you use more punctuation besides just exclamations points with the occasional comma? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif Putting an exclamation point after each and every sentence really loses its meaning.
No offense meant here, just a suggestion. Reading your posts feels like you are on speed while you type.
Truth, credit, reality!
Yep, its me, just stumbled upon this post...and now the shit will get deep!
Chris, hate to say it bro but you were NOTHING before me! I HANDED YOU YOUR ONE AND ONLY DB DRAG RACING CHAMPIONSHIP! remember that always my old friend! OH, and who was the man behind the scenes for your other beloved big number? oh yeah, I remember who was with you and why when you set the over all highest number in USAC a few years later...man, thats gotta really dig in deep huh? the only 2 things you have to brag about for accomplishments and both setups can be traced back to me...SIZZLE man!
Oh and the TRF/shocker/TC connection...we gonna hit that one too huh! ok, just remember who opened the can of worms "bro"! Lets see...Thilo designed the 4hp, yep, we all know that, and who got a prototype for that, oh yeah...ME! and who had lost his job for at classic stereo and why??? I remember the reason Chris do you? shall I say it here? do you want everyone to know? it won't be slander if what I say is true...dare me dude, dare me to share! So, you were BROKE and needed money and I let you hang around me and I showed you how to recone (man that must hurt your feelings that people will know that you didnt' teach me as you have been saying to people for years...lol) and you were helping me test protos, remember? too long ago, still a little cloudy? let me refresh for ya "bro" I had gotten a prototype 4hp woofer from Thilo which I was testing, I liked it but also wanted to test a 3" version which at the time didn't exist so I had one made ( i know, bigtime design there right? lol, oh well)! It turned out using all the same soft parts but with 3" we had better results so I went in production with the 3" version...no big deal, and chris had a golf car that he used to take to shows and asked for the 4" proto to put on it ( i have pics bro don't try to deny)! anyhow, 3 months after he was given that proto he took it to rockford and claimed to them that he designed this woofer, **** THAT HURTS DON'T IT! Sure, he called nuway and had them make a 4" version of the cone I was using at the time...Sure he ordered a YELLOW, OMG YELLOW spider from TC instead of a black one like I used! But all in all his megawoofer was nothing more than the TC4hp proto that was made for me, paid for by me and given to him by me! The way he paid me back for all that I had done for him is he went to rockford a company that could afford to do something big and handed to them a woofer that they wouldn't have produced without him in turn cutting my legs out from under me! Way to treat your friends "bro"! I HAD EVERYTHING I OWNED RIDING ON THE SUCCESS OF THE SIG AND WHEN ROCKFORD STARTED HANDING THEIR VERSION OUT FOR FREE....LITTLE MAN LOST HIS ***....NO BIGGIE THERE THOUGH RIGHT CHRIS? YOU GOT YOUR FORTUNE AND FAME OUT OF IT! PFFT, and who STEPPED on who? yeah, thats what I thought...and you know what sux for you dude, that is true so it isn't slander.....(sizzle sizzle burn)
Do I care that chris got "credit" for the TRF? nope, did he really design it? nope...did I? nope, did Thilo, yep! Thilo built them, chris reconed them, good job man, you rock at least I have my one of a kind motor that really was made for me only and I actually built every single one of them by hand myself!
so, since you wanted to set the record straight, I felt it only right that it should be set straight...now, if you would care to dive any deeper...that's your choice, just tread careful as if you slip up and slander, you will be held liable. Oh, and if you dare open that can of worms that I know you are just dying to open, be prepared for the total unleashing of laundry you really don't want to bring to the public eye...I promise it will have more of an impact on you than it does me!
Yep, its me, just stumbled upon this post...and now the shit will get deep!
Chris, hate to say it bro but you were NOTHING before me! I HANDED YOU YOUR ONE AND ONLY DB DRAG RACING CHAMPIONSHIP! remember that always my old friend! OH, and who was the man behind the scenes for your other beloved big number? oh yeah, I remember who was with you and why when you set the over all highest number in USAC a few years later...man, thats gotta really dig in deep huh? the only 2 things you have to brag about for accomplishments and both setups can be traced back to me...SIZZLE man!
Oh and the TRF/shocker/TC connection...we gonna hit that one too huh! ok, just remember who opened the can of worms "bro"! Lets see...Thilo designed the 4hp, yep, we all know that, and who got a prototype for that, oh yeah...ME! and who had lost his job for at classic stereo and why??? I remember the reason Chris do you? shall I say it here? do you want everyone to know? it won't be slander if what I say is true...dare me dude, dare me to share! So, you were BROKE and needed money and I let you hang around me and I showed you how to recone (man that must hurt your feelings that people will know that you didnt' teach me as you have been saying to people for years...lol) and you were helping me test protos, remember? too long ago, still a little cloudy? let me refresh for ya "bro" I had gotten a prototype 4hp woofer from Thilo which I was testing, I liked it but also wanted to test a 3" version which at the time didn't exist so I had one made ( i know, bigtime design there right? lol, oh well)! It turned out using all the same soft parts but with 3" we had better results so I went in production with the 3" version...no big deal, and chris had a golf car that he used to take to shows and asked for the 4" proto to put on it ( i have pics bro don't try to deny)! anyhow, 3 months after he was given that proto he took it to rockford and claimed to them that he designed this woofer, **** THAT HURTS DON'T IT! Sure, he called nuway and had them make a 4" version of the cone I was using at the time...Sure he ordered a YELLOW, OMG YELLOW spider from TC instead of a black one like I used! But all in all his megawoofer was nothing more than the TC4hp proto that was made for me, paid for by me and given to him by me! The way he paid me back for all that I had done for him is he went to rockford a company that could afford to do something big and handed to them a woofer that they wouldn't have produced without him in turn cutting my legs out from under me! Way to treat your friends "bro"! I HAD EVERYTHING I OWNED RIDING ON THE SUCCESS OF THE SIG AND WHEN ROCKFORD STARTED HANDING THEIR VERSION OUT FOR FREE....LITTLE MAN LOST HIS ***....NO BIGGIE THERE THOUGH RIGHT CHRIS? YOU GOT YOUR FORTUNE AND FAME OUT OF IT! PFFT, and who STEPPED on who? yeah, thats what I thought...and you know what sux for you dude, that is true so it isn't slander.....(sizzle sizzle burn)
Do I care that chris got "credit" for the TRF? nope, did he really design it? nope...did I? nope, did Thilo, yep! Thilo built them, chris reconed them, good job man, you rock at least I have my one of a kind motor that really was made for me only and I actually built every single one of them by hand myself!
so, since you wanted to set the record straight, I felt it only right that it should be set straight...now, if you would care to dive any deeper...that's your choice, just tread careful as if you slip up and slander, you will be held liable. Oh, and if you dare open that can of worms that I know you are just dying to open, be prepared for the total unleashing of laundry you really don't want to bring to the public eye...I promise it will have more of an impact on you than it does me!
I know who really designed the woofer.....
I Belive it was Mr. Kevin Stevens //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
I Belive it was Mr. Kevin Stevens //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
no clue at all, I don't even know who you are...i don't even know if you ever dealt with me or if you dealt with Chris, or Ben or someone else! If you truely think you dealt with me and have any kind of information about this alleged instance it would prob do you good to email me at the addy in my profile! here it is in text if you need it!
shocker_mike@yahoo.com
ps, i don't visit this forum...I only came here because I was alerted of this thread, don't expect that I will be checking this forum much more than for a couple of days...the email addy is good though if anyone needs to contact me, been the same for years //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
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