Is this illegal?

[J31Rob 5,000+ posts]

Obama should fix this.

 

[J31Rob 5,000+ posts]

That is completely legal. Stop being a ninny bitch.

My bro!

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

My issue with this is that it's the classic, "I have more power than you, so deal with it" thing.

Lulz. Thats how the work force works bro. Someone will always have more power than you unless you own the fucking company. If you cant handle it quit and live off unemployment like most other people.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

The problem with your logic is that it's not descriminating against any group. Randomization will still be challenged. It's not "bad" policy to anyone but you. Explain to me how a Date of Birth rule is any different than Seniority. THEN once you've used sound logic to show that there is a reason Seniority is fair but DOB isn't we can continue this discussion. Until then it is CLEAR that you have a faulty premise and you're just being a whiny Bitch.

are you stupid? There are laws protecting people 40 and over from discrimination based on age. How is date of birth different than seniority? Date of birth is when you are born, seniority is how long you've worked for a company. The fact is, it would clearly violate laws if it was the reverse, If the younger you were, the higher choice you got. The only fact that makes this different is that no law has been created for the group i'm a part of. That doesn't mean that i'm not being discriminated against.

Mere fact is that the law has decided you can't discriminate against people for being old, so how is it OK to discriminate for being too young? That's not a faulty premise, its a perfectly valid argument.

Seniority is the length you have worked for a company. It is in no way based on a person's personal identity. It's the same as saying some people are supervisors and some subordinate.

Age is not. You are discriminating against people who possibly have earned a privilege because of age.

Maybe i'm a whiny B, but when I've been there longer than anyone else, work harder than most of the others, and i'm the only one not given ANY choice in my schedule based on nothing but my age, I get a little pizsed.

 

[ahole-ic]

are you stupid?

Clearly not. I just proved you wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt.

There are laws protecting people 40 and over from discrimination based on age.

Where does that law say anything about below 40? Is it a state or federal law? How is it applicable to this discussion if it is indeed real?

How is date of birth different than seniority? Date of birth is when you are born, seniority is how long you've worked for a company.

So what you are saying is, that when everyone starts a job, it is just like when they are born. The longer they exist, the more weight they carry because the clock keeps ticking... so in fact they are the same thing. I gotcha.

The fact is, it would clearly violate laws if it was the reverse, If the younger you were, the higher choice you got. The only fact that makes this different is that no law has been created for the group i'm a part of. That doesn't mean that i'm not being discriminated against.

Sure it does. Eventually you will get old and be a part of the favored group... so you are in fact NOT being discriminated against since you can simply wait it out and gain favortism. Your argument against this is also an argument against seniority since they are the same thing. After enough time has gone by you will have seniority as well as age.

Mere fact is that the law has decided you can't discriminate against people for being old, so how is it OK to discriminate for being too young? That's not a faulty premise, its a perfectly valid argument.

It's not a valid argument at all. You will be old one day, so it is an equal opportunity law.

Seniority is the length you have worked for a company. It is in no way based on a person's personal identity. It's the same as saying some people are supervisors and some subordinate.

Your age is the length of time you have lived. It's the same as saying some people are the child and others the parent.

Age is not. You are discriminating against people who possibly have earned a privilege because of age.

See above. Age and seniority both have a starting point and increase the longer a person participates. They are identical and you have showed no differences at all. You lose.

Maybe i'm a whiny B, but when I've been there longer than anyone else, work harder than most of the others, and i'm the only one not given ANY choice in my schedule based on nothing but my age, I get a little pizsed.

Be pissed but your argument has no bearing on anything. Simply stop working harder than everyone else if it's going to cause you to whine and complain about things that you can't back up with logic.

 

[dumple 5,000+ posts]

I worked in a warehouse for 3 years where I showed 2 different "supervisors" how to run the **** place, my schedule or pay never changed because I was younger or older then anyone neither did my pay, if taking the biotch shift is no good for you maybe you should go to your boss and talk to them not a caraudio forum...... btw hows that Italian horsepower chip for your truck

 

[VWBobby 10+ year member]

E-crack is an idiot about this subject....disregard him. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Seniority can be judged based on work performance or length of employment/job position within the company.

As much as the company might want to make people believe they are allowed to discriminate based on a "random" number such as your SS # (which it is not random) or by your birth date.....they cannot.

Laws are put in place in at least 2 states I've worked in that prevent employers from discriminating based on "age, creed, ethnic background", etc,etc....

As an employer I'm required to know what laws I must obey regarding employment, and I would be on some thin ice with a policy like you described. Back when I worked swing and graveyard, our company would rotate shifts every 6 months and ANYONE was allowed to request any shift in our group. Even the production workers (lowest on the totem pole) were allowed to request their shifts.

Finally, Unions help protect workers rights. As an employer, one of the scariest things you can have is a union. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif It allows workers to lobby for higher wages, more benefits and to strike when they feel like they have been wronged. A "right to work" or at-will state gives an employer almost total freedom to hire and fire whenever they want. This is not what you want as an employee. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Talk to a lawyer, but don't plan on not being picked on in round-about ways if you do pursue a lawsuit.

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

I work at a legit business so I don't have to worry about this juvenile shit. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

I work at a legit business so I don't have to worry about this juvenile shit. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Well I wouldn't expect my college job to be the most legit job ever, but I would still expect more from an airline.

And dude is right, E-crack is kinda a moron about this. I don't see what's not clear. People sue for age discrimination (in the case that they are over 40), so how can you say you can't be discriminated against for being younger? In most cases this wouldn't fly because it's usually not anything more than some punk bichin about having to do more work than the older guys, but in this case it seems like it's a blatant policy.

 

[T.I.K. 10+ year member]

If you're that butthurt about it, hijack a plane and fly it into a building.