i went out and bought a creative zen micro, its a awsome mp3 player, i read up on the reviews, on some different ones and plus the zen micro can use napsters 2 go program where you can load up any amount of songs you want on the mp3 player for 15$ a month, instead of 99 censt a song just pay 15$ and put ever how many you want on there
http://www.napster.com/ntg.html
here are th cnet reviews for different categories of mp3 players
micro hard drive(ipod mini, zen micro, etc)
http://reviews.cnet.com/4521-6532_7-5021434-4.html?tag=dir.tmmp
Hard drive players reg(ipod, zen touch,etc)
http://reviews.cnet.com/Music/4521-6532_7-5021434-3.html?tag=dir.thdmp
get what ever size you want but i cant think of enough songs to fill my 5gb worth so i dont see the need for 20gb+ IMO, but for others it might be neccessary
but i love my zen micro, the cool blue glow is mesmerising //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif and i think the controls are easy to use once figured out, and you can get a good bit different colors with the zen micro, i chose black but there are 10 others i think, it also has a radio if you need it, and also it can record off the radio
edit: and notice the zen got the same score as the ipod, dosent mean its better or worse just their opinion, but i love mine and would reccommend it to anyone