if you voted for Barack Hussein Obama

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I'm not blaming anyone, but....when bush took away our most basic freedom, habeas corpus.

Good thing you aren't blaming anyone.

Its funny you quote my reply, and then go back into the same tired 'Patrioc Act is republican/Bush legislation' argument that I already countered with the very reply you quoted.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Well all them "moslins" don't seem to bother the chinese, or the russians....but then again the chinese and russians didn't go over to "moslin" countries and stick their noses where they don't belong.

Certain societies seem to look for a scapegoat for their own lackings. Since the US has become the sole superpower military wise, the scapegoat to choose is pretty obvious. All those people standing around burning the American flag that we see in the nightly news, if interviewed... how many do you think would have radically skewed misunderstandings about the United States and its motives?

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Wow, ok. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif

He's right. The Hussein argument is a lame duck. Both sides use it to their political advantage (conservatives use it to suggest he's muslim, liberals call everyone who uses it a racist). Who really cares. Lets stick to important topics.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

As for the Hitler/socialist argument, I already answered that with a decent amount of detail (more than anyone else here, at least). Sometimes I think you guys just like to argue. Let me repeat what I said...

Yes, and no. During his rise to power, Hitler actually blamed socialism and marxism for much of Germany's problems (there by creating the societal anger that lead to his surge to power), as well as capitalism. But in reality, it was simply him blaming anyone he could, just to rile up the population. I say this because once his Nazi party (and he himself) took over power of the govt, they increased the govt's role in their economy greatly (a move towards socialism), but the population (workers) did NOT have any real power in their own govt (NOT socialism). Hitler did proclaim he was building a socialist society tho, mostly (imo) to mask his own personal desire for power as the supreme leader. Hitler's Germany has aspects of socialism/communism in it, totalitarianism, and even a simple monarchy. That bitch seemed to just make **** as he went, whatever worked out best for numero uno.
edit: Nazism is referred to as "national socialism" tho. Its a grossly oversimplified description however, with political/propaganda themed undertones.

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

He's right. The Hussein argument is a lame duck. Both sides use it to their political advantage (conservatives use it to suggest he's muslim, liberals call everyone who uses it a racist). Who really cares. Lets stick to important topics.

I don't care that anyone used W's middle initial anymore than I care that some like to use the resident moron's middle name...and who the fuck knows if he's Muslim or not...I certainly don't care...what I do care about is that fact that he has actually eclipsed Jimmy Carter as the most incompetent President in U.S. history. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I don't care that anyone used W's middle initial anymore than I care that some like to use the resident moron's middle name...and who the fuck knows if he's Muslim or not...I certainly don't care...what I do care about is that fact that he has actually eclipsed Jimmy Carter as the most incompetent President in U.S. history. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Im not discounting any of your points mentioned here (or suggesting I agree), Im simply saying that using GW Bushes middle initial does not have the same undertones as using Hussein. Im not even saying its fair or unfair, again both sides use it to their advantage, Im just saying their is political motivation behind the use, or lack there of.

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

Noted.

 

[Annnarbor84 5,000+ posts]

Dually

 

[LazyRider 10+ year member]

Americans complain too much //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Actually, we dont complain enough. What we do too much of is, go along with the status quo.

 

[LazyRider 10+ year member]

Actually, we dont complain enough. What we do too much of is, go along with the status quo.

All I ever hear people do is complain. As if someone is begging them to stay in the U.S. It's easier to just bitch and complain that to actually do something about what you're complaining about.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

All I ever hear people do is complain. As if someone is begging them to stay in the U.S. It's easier to just bitch and complain that to actually do something about what you're complaining about.

We've been through this before. All the politicians want us to do is complain. And by complain I mean blame everything on the other political party. Fat, dumb, and happy.

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

I blame the morons in the middle. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[Annnarbor84 5,000+ posts]

I:blackeye:

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

George W Bush?

That was used to differentiate him from his father, and is not his full name, just an initial....try again.