How in the hell do you make Kick panels?

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

I'm in Westminster, ca


The Aluminum versions do not have that harshness or heavy metallic sound like most other metal dome tweeters. Even their home audio 27tbfcg series are aluminum, yet you wouldn't think they're aluminum because they are **** smooth and won't fatigue your ears. That is unless you use the wrong crossover settings.

eeek, thats way down

JAZN is really close you.

Titanium is isially associated with "hars" tweeters. It also depends on who makes it. Not every metal dome tweeter will be harsh.

Different producer= different sound

 

[orangeblast 10+ year member]

whats a good amp company to be looking at for the Reference series?

and why exactly DON'T I need 100x4 to be O.K. to run these speakers?

 

[GSteg 10+ year member]

and why exactly DON'T I need 100x4 to be O.K. to run these speakers?

Like I explained before. The speakers will not be getting 100w at all, at least not constantly. Music is dynamic.

If you ever measured the output of most amp when driving tweeters, don't be surprise that the tweeters see less than 10w.

I have less than 8w going to my tweeters in home and believe me, they get loud, standing over 10ft away..

You only need a lot of power if you want headroom, but for the most part, most people won't even reach the amp's full potential in an SQ setup.

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

Yep.

Unless you send your speakers tones thats the only way they would recieve full power

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

as for amps, what is your budget? i'm guessing it's a decent amount since it seems like you are going to purchase the seas lotus reference. but like i said earlier look into DLS and Arc Audio XXK line.

 

[orangeblast 10+ year member]

well......good question heh..I tend to work in this way: If I believe it worth it or even convinced that its worth it...then I'll buy it.

So as for a budget...well its flexible. If I believe and convinced that this xxx for channel amp will be perfect to partner up with the reference series then I'll buy it.

i know its odd...but that kind of how I work

 

[GSteg 10+ year member]

How is this:

http://www.cardomain.com/item/ROCT8004

Some guy is selling it for $350 shipped in mint condition.

rated at 50x4@4ohm, but it actually does ~170x4@4ohm. Talk about being underrated.

The amp is a beast, regardless of what people say. LOTS of power for dynamic range. Can't go wrong with it, especially for the price of $350 shipped.

 

[orangeblast 10+ year member]

wholly hell thats a beefy amp. How do you know when an amp is underrated?

also found that the Reference series are about 100 rms and I believe 250 max. I maybe wrong on this...but if I recall from along time ago when I was learning about basic caraudio stuff....when amp output gets closer to a speakers max wattage...you get more distortion....is this true?

 

[GSteg 10+ year member]

There is a birthsheet that comes with the rockford amp. It's also been verified through a 3rd party member too.

Max rating is a made up number. You get more distortion the louder you crank up your speakers, but this doesn't mean it's always bad distortion. It's natural for mids to introduce more distortion as you crank up the volume (THD rises). This distortion in many case, are not the same as if the amp was clipping. You'll get to the point where it's loud enough.

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

Those amps are really really big.

Prob the only reason why i would never get one.

 

[orangeblast 10+ year member]

http://www.dls.se/english/index.htm

should be a good choie?

http://www.arcaudio.com/arc-05/amplifiers/xxk_4150.htm

the arc audio looks like it would even be a better choice. rated at 80x4@4ohms so, I'm sure that its underrated some how...possibly....can really do 100+ x4@4ohms...??

also....and lets say I didn't get an Eclipse HU....what would be another really good SQ deck I could go with to do Active??

and any idea what eclipse has in store for 2006?

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

you cant hyperlink on DLS's site

 

[orangeblast 10+ year member]

The DLS ULTIMATE A4 - The Big Four

But I really am liking that Arc Audio one.

also its odd...i'm not seeing to many "bypass" or "off" switches on amps to run an Active setup and use my HU for xover. strange.

and we still agree that an Eclipse cd8455 would be a better choice for 2ways than a DRZ9255 clarion....right? only cuse I found one for 650. MINT.

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

Its a nice amp. $540 or something close to that for the DLS IIRC

You just set the amps to "full" on the filter

In the DLS manual it says that you use the X2 and X3 buttons if you are running an active setup

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

usually it won't specifically say in the features area if the amp has an full, off switch for the crossover. its usually a given. i haven't used the clarion myself but i love my eclipse.