Horns

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

what, that one i listed from partsexpress? lol
audiolife- im dumb and dont listen to anyone:hilariou: lol...but ya im a hardhead...o well ive already got them and im not selling them, ive changed drivers 9734897 times lol...

anyways, ive talked with this guy(actually lives in brandon/tampa area) and he said his was loud and he could hardly sit in the car, and you could hear his car for BLOCKS loud and clear...same 8 mids and 8 tweets i have, and the clarion MCD360 crossover, on a kicker 650.2 or something i think...

his 4th midrange is on the rear deck. im gonna have 2 mids and 3 tweets in each front door, 1 mid in each kick, and the last 2 mids and 2 tweets will be in some sort of pod above my head around the top of the wall/headliner.

i would do it like this guy did, but if i do 3 mids like that, the last one will fire right into my seats, which is kinda a waste of a mid...

he got these made at Divine Sounds on dale mabry and waters lol

you can hear the horns im talking about for blocks (this is parked inside the county fair block can still hear it over 10,000 people and an "olympic bob" ride with a peavy sound system blairing GnR)and finish top 3 in the world in sq with a "100 watt" (lol) system. it would also look alot better than that door but too each their own. horns take 3-4 back straps (2 in the front on the horn body flange which are trimable down 17" for full body 11"-9" for mini and 2 on the motor) its also alot easier to tune 2 speakers than it is 8 but if you arent into that you are fine. not picking on you but there are a few advantages with useing less drivers. if you dont care about sound stage and imaging thats fine (you are well within your reason to do so) but with what i am talking about you can do both. my way the speakers cost more but can be put in in under 2 hours (4 if you want to make it look cool) and have 4 wires running 2 speakers from a smaller 2 channel amp. my first real car audio system (about 1990) had 27 speakers and when a problem ever occured it was a real puta to work on. my advice (to the thread starter) is you can generally pick up a good used set of horns (like squeak talked about) for 350ish to 250 ish and go from there. you wouldnt be disappointed at all. might be a little out of budget but no worse than spending less then being unhappy selling that at a loss and buying something else type routine.

 

[pimpedout97x]

i know many people have told me that before, but ive gone too far and for now i guess itll be good lol...

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

without some work horns won't sound particularly amazing anyway. If he's already got a bajillon driver shoved into his car might as well not change, it's still going to be loud and in your face, if that's the only point you might as well NOT use horns

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

without some work horns won't sound particularly amazing anyway. If he's already got a bajillon driver shoved into his car might as well not change, it's still going to be loud and in your face, if that's the only point you might as well NOT use horns

70% of shops probably at least dont sell horns and i bet probably less than that have actually installed them. they arent hard to install and if you actually have very good equipment around them they are pretty easy to tune. ALOT of the all time great sq cars used them and they are easier to set up than 4-10 of anything i can think of. speaking from real experience from all sides (competitor, consumer and installer) and i still go to some of the larger shows and listen to some of the latest and greatest.

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

i wanted the horns...and i just have RE RE comps...

lol

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

how are these for stout 8's

http://www.realmofexcursion.com/store/product_info.php/cPath/21_59/products_id/145

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

they have to play up to 1.25k easy i dont remember the specs on those. you dont need a "beefy" speaker just one that sounds good and keeps up.

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

sweet.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

how are these for stout 8's
http://www.realmofexcursion.com/store/product_info.php/cPath/21_59/products_id/145

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2180104&postcount=14

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

hush you lol

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

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[T3mpest 10+ year member]

70% of shops probably at least dont sell horns and i bet probably less than that have actually installed them. they arent hard to install and if you actually have very good equipment around them they are pretty easy to tune. ALOT of the all time great sq cars used them and they are easier to set up than 4-10 of anything i can think of. speaking from real experience from all sides (competitor, consumer and installer) and i still go to some of the larger shows and listen to some of the latest and greatest.

That's true but is he goin to have good equipment around? Does he even have the patience or ear to tune it? I'm just saying if his only goal is pure volume he's losing some of the better benefits of horns anyway, who cares about tonality at 120db of treble! That's total sensory overload. Sure lots of SQ installs have used horns, many fairly sucessful (stupid BMW's:naughty: ) That's not the point though if he's doing it to keep up with subs, which judging by his multiple mid install he's alreay using, he might as well not switch, there's no real benefit of going to horns at this point. He has all the volume he wants I'd assume and SQ isnt' a big concern. I'm not against horns, I plan on using them in my next setup actually.

I'd say if when doing a horn install a 3 way is your best bet. It's hard to find a driver that will play 80-1k with enough authority to keep up with horns. To get the lower midrange in focus you usually end up switching phase which kills your midbass. Granted if you dont' plan on turning your volume up alot you can do fine in a 2 way, especially if you use a large/vented kickpanel, with a higher effeciency driver.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

i sold 9 pairs of horns in a hole in the wall in auburn indiana. when people heard them in a proper set up they were all amazed. granted this was like '96-97 but the customers goals were the same "just be loud". we had a company called pyle (same name but definately better stuff in the old days) that made horns (alot like those eminence) that people used in multiple sets. thing is when you throw 2 or 3 in your door and even a pair or 2 in your dash they are nowhere near as coheirent as the types of horns im talking about. they dont hit you from every angle like 6 screaming kids vs 2 coherent singers that are individually louder solidly in front of you. it isnt like there isnt a difference sometimes you just have to show people

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

I dont have multiple midbass drivers. I think you have me and pimpoedout97x confused with each other.

He has eminences

I have Re Re comps....I mean yeah i want it to keep up with the subs, but i would like it to sound at least decent as well...

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

the quality of the gear surrounding the horns should be decent. as far as eq and such (i used to have 2 audio control eqts and an idx24 x over) some people shy away from cd-1e but i have heard a few sound great. only thing to remember is if they sound "off" flip the positive and neg around on the passenger side. that makes a huge diff most of the time. im not telling you to "automatically get horns" but being in florida and if they have sbn (daytona) where they have sq vehicles look for them and see if you can listen. im sure it will be alot different than you think.