Honestly, the new challenger = fail

[Pootie 10+ year member]

It's not GM

 

[jdc753 10+ year member]

I like the looks of them but then again I am a big retro fan and have yet to see much of anything modern that I can appreciate for what it is. Also a big fan of big motors even if they are in tanks lol. Never liked the "sport" cars such as the Lotus Elise, or S2000 and whatever other small weight small motor cars. I like muscle cars even if they aren't that fast and it all depends on application too, muscle cars go good straight line but not good cornering, while sports cars go good on corners but don't have the power to keep up on the straights.

New camaro sucks though, its retro but not retro enough for my tastes. Still looks too much like a concept car and like it can't make up its mind on if it wants to be modern and be old.

I totally agree though on the weight, cars are BOATS nowadays. Problem is ya gotta yank out half the safety features and half the creature comforts to cut weight. Give me a nice old 66 mustang fastback with a hi-po 289 and a 4 speed, not too much muscle but sure would get up and go and without too much weight.

 

[Lugnutzk 10+ year member]

It's not GM

That is true.

 

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What is wrong with Ford? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

It's not foreign.

 

[dman4486 5,000+ posts]

What is wrong with Ford? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

the same old brand bashing bullshit......all of them made shitty auto's and most of them made good ones

 

[Lugnutzk 10+ year member]

It's not foreign.

Finally assembly on the Focus was in Mexico //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 

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White racist fegs design these cars. I am sure of it. It reminds them of the cars they drove to their klan meetings for bonfires and tossed salads.

 

[dman4486 5,000+ posts]

It's not foreign.

what is so great about a foreign car?

 

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Finally assembly on the Focus was in Mexico //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

This doesn't make it a foreign auto //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

They have people like you working here in the design centers.

 

[bones22 5,000+ posts]

i test drove one yesterday

for the price they arent all the are cracked up to be.

if they were about 10k less they would be very nice

 

[Lugnutzk 10+ year member]

the same old brand bashing bullshit......all of them made shitty auto's and most of them made good ones

Ford had the most vehicles rated in the top by JD. I really like all the vehicles Ford has. I wish I worked at Ford's.

 

[Lugnutzk 10+ year member]

This doesn't make it a foreign auto //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
They have people like you working here in the design centers.

I don't work for Ford //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

I think they are pretty badass looking, however I think the rearend on them is hideous.

I didn't notice it before from pics online, but the bumper/rear valance is GIGANTIC. It just looks awkward.

 

[dman4486 5,000+ posts]

Ford had the most vehicles rated in the top by JD. I really like all the vehicles Ford has. I wish I worked at Ford's.

I own a Ford and will always stick up for it..however I have to disagree with the "all Ford vehicles" statement. I don't like any of the new line because of all the plastic shit. build quality on every new car is crap.

edit: I own an old Ford

 

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what is so great about a foreign car?

Everything. Most other world automakers know how to make a complete package and a tastefully designed body.